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211 points by elmerland 12 days ago · 71 comments

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customguy 12 days ago

> Accessibility doesn't matter when the content is engineered to be inaccessible to thought.

Act sarcastic all you want, that's a killer line. You do care.

  • nlawalker 12 days ago

    The headline on that section, "Static sites are for people who can still read", caught me off guard.

    • altmanaltman 11 days ago

      Because it's also bullshit. "People who read" prefer static sites and not prefer any kind of interactivity is just fetishizing intelligence. Readers don't give a fuck if your site is coded in react or static, most of them dont even know web technology statistically. Projection at its peak

      • advael 11 days ago

        Yea definitely, anyone with different preferences from you is just virtue signaling and/or trying to flex on you. Seems super reasonable to me

        • altmanaltman 10 days ago

          Anyone who thinks their preferences translate to their viewers is not being honest with themselves. Developers care if your site is static or not, general visitors and web users do not. There is a reason why static sites are not the norm. You're trying to shoehorn your opinion and generalize it when in reality that's not the true. Thanks for mockery!

          • advael 10 days ago

            So we've gone from "anyone who expresses this preference is a snob" to "actually what matters is the preferences of some imaginary audience, who I can also speak for"

            Fascinating

            • altmanaltman 9 days ago

              What's fascinating is your lack of interest in discussing the subject. Have a good day.

              • advael 9 days ago

                In a way, we're doing the same maneuver to avoid discussing the subject, deflecting to base insults involving psychoanalysis of the speaker based on their stated position rather than object-level engagement with the position per se. I agree that it's not a move that seems to invite meaningful discussion. Seems worth considering if that's a priority you have

        • cyanydeez 11 days ago

          yall, the line is referencing codegen & docsgen & slopgen; people are putting shit into the ether that neither them nor anyone else is going to read but will just be imbibed by some other agent for some random purpose no one strictly knows.

          • advael 11 days ago

            Aye, and the comment above mine was engaging with the line in a way that begged for mockery nonetheless

  • elmerlandOP 12 days ago

    There are a few bangers in there

    • bbor 12 days ago

      Out of curiosity, which AI persona should I attribute this writing to? Is this Claude?

      • elmerlandOP 12 days ago

        Ya, it’s Claude

        • muglug 11 days ago

          > get hired at a comp number that requires a comma you've never used before

          Gotta hand it to Claude, that's almost a pretty decent line.

          • FearNotDaniel 11 days ago

            I’m pouring out a shot of Tres Comas for Claude right now

            • darkwater 11 days ago

              It feels good now to have watched the whole SV series. just knowing the inside jokes or the short clips on HN was worth it.

          • adastra22 11 days ago

            I've seen Claude come up with some pretty incredible bangers.

            I mean, it's still obviously LLM-generated. But Claude's got a sense of humor if you prompt him right.

        • steve_adams_86 11 days ago

          It’s so strange that the Claude-ness leaks out even when it’s prompted to use this tone. The underlying flavour shines through clearly. I’m sure you could get it to shake it with enough prompting

          • teiferer 11 days ago

            Did anybody consider that this was sarcastically hand-crafted with some obvious LLM-isms mixed in for the lulz? It goes both ways...

    • worthless-trash 11 days ago

      > but they get attention, and attention is the only metric left. Nobody's reading and you know it.

      Its not every day I get called a nobody from a clanker, its true, but I still dont like to be called a nobody.

  • LPisGood 11 days ago

    > The weights already ate it. Your CC0 footer is a fucking eulogy.

    Made me wonder if there would ever be a copyleft reckoning to this whole thing. Probably not.

enthdegree 12 days ago

I'm fatigued by this hyperbole and profanity, especially when written by an LLM. There is too much of this. Human-written or not it makes it very difficult for me to engage with. The sentiment is bad. Is building this better than building nothing?

Just because this is how things are does not it's how they should be. I'm very tired.

  • elmerlandOP 12 days ago

    This site is for the lolz and obviously following the style set by the previous mf websites. I find it cathartic to laugh at the ridiculousness of the situation we are in, but also genuinely engage with the neck breaking pace of change we are all having to adjust to.

    And the LLM came up with some really funny lines

    • brendanfinan 12 days ago

      people were (rightfully) complaining about this kind of humor in 2019

      https://dysfunctionalliteracy.com/2019/12/21/why-do-self-hel...

      • mnsc 11 days ago

        People complain about all things all the time (rightfully) but I'm not gonna complain about your complaints now, I will only add that I sometimes enjoy humor full of "shock" and profanity. Still! , After decades of professionals and non-professionals diluting it. This site was funny. Ymmv

        • sevenzero 11 days ago

          Its a tale as old as time. I am 30 and still love fart jokes but I must accept that some people prefer the boring life and lost all humor.

    • thrie8di 11 days ago

      It is as "cathartic" as dropping n words everywhere. N this and that, that n president!

      Author has incestual relationship in their family. At least in my country that is highly offensive. For the sake of their possible children / siblinks, I hope they use protection!

      • curtisblaine 11 days ago

        > Author has incestual relationship in their family.

        Now I want to know in which culture this is used as a common insult.

        • goodmythical 11 days ago

          I'm fairly certain most cultures have common use of incestual insults.

          The english "mother fucker" is born of the original taboo of fucking one's mother. The act is seen as bad, so we use the phrase referencing the act as a label for all sorts of bad things. Like, you dropped a book on your foot, and that's as bad as someone who sleeps with their mum, so you say "mother fucker".

          Spanish has tu chinga tu madre or just chinga tu madre.

          Not sure off the top of my head, but I know there's lots of other cultures that use the same taboo in the same kind of substitional way.

        • somewhatgoated 11 days ago

          Motherfucker ?

  • gobdovan 11 days ago

    As a former 7th grader, I liked the style. If anything, the over-the-top-ness makes it less bitter and more of a self-parody. It's honest about its own immaturity, making everything lighthearted again.

    It's also using only under-specific swearwords like 'm..f*king', which is not really instigating violence, attacking any characteristic directly, just exaggerated profanity to the point of unseriousness.

    I'm not saying the style is good or that everyone should tolerate it, I'm saying only that for me the exaggeration softens out the sentiment. I'd argue it's also what you sing up given the URL.

  • cyanydeez 11 days ago

    It's actually amazing people try to disassociate LLM writing from humans; 10 years ago the same was about trolls and rage bait.

    Ya'll should've already realized that finding a truth statement on the internet is a hazard not worth doing.

    Now it's just worse because the sloptrolls dont even.

  • classified 11 days ago

    I for sure wouldn't want to be a mother on this website.

  • brcmthrowaway 12 days ago

    Edgy CS grad vibes.

  • dabidab 12 days ago

    Yeah and these children who have never seen an em dash in their life.

tra3 11 days ago

Plot twist, it was artisanally typed in emacs.

zarzavat 11 days ago

This is great satire. If you read it as a parody it's uncomfortable, if you read it straight it's uncomfortable but in a different way.

prvt 12 days ago

First they sell you the sickness and then they tell you the cure is too dangerous to release to the general public. Because their sickness will not sell.

buildbot 11 days ago

Why is this so good?

Probably because someone still cared a lot about the bit! And wow this is really quite good lol.

  • elmerlandOP 11 days ago

    Commitment to the bit is the only way. None of that “I like it ironically” bs here

indianmouse 12 days ago

Exactly! Though it is sarcastic, it is the way in which everything is moving. No end to it and it'll get worse by day.

But the site has brilliantly captured the thoughts and the little nuances behind agentic coding. It is sure good for all the LLM providers, but on a slightly serious note, it just burns cash which could have been avoided all together.

All said, it's just too good and satirically correct with the prevailing attitude!

Nothing to complain or comment on about the thought process or content. Just don't get into an opinion forming on what is written, but just take a step back and retrospect, it is all on the wall!

Nice work IMHO!

chamomeal 12 days ago

> Websites are broken by default. They used to be functional, fast, and accessible but ugly. Now they're slop, agentic, and on fire — but they get attention, and attention is the only metric left. Nobody's reading and you know it.

I’m upset if an LLM actually wrote this because this is p sick

  • yborg 11 days ago

    It's AI. Telling a model to shitpost really isn't very interesting since that's pretty much half of everything on the internets and there was practically infinite training material.

  • helloplanets 11 days ago

    It reads a lot like an LLM... Especially this sentence:

    > Now they're slop, agentic, and on fire — but they get attention, and attention is the only metric left.

    Welcome to the future, where we have LLMs writing slop rants about LLMs writing slop!

    • teiferer 11 days ago

      > It reads a lot like an LLM

      And that my friend was the joke. Achievement unlocked, congrats!

      • helloplanets 10 days ago

        Did you actually catch my drift though?

        Something that reads like an LLM wrote it is different from an LLM having written it to begin with. Something written by an LLM can be something that doesn't have the hallmarks of LLM all over it.

        I was just saying that the original quote doesn't strike me as something that's an annoyingly good piece of LLM writing.

        There's a lot of experimentation happening on how to get LLMs to write well, starting with half of what's been posted on Gwern's blog as of late.

kocyigityunus 11 days ago

that's what our ai landlords want. i will give them that, and a few years later i will resell them the cure.

mahirsaid 11 days ago

We need this at a conference. Why are people pushing back so heavily when embracing it will bring you greater control over the technologies coming out. Yes AI will replace jobs, what now. Are you just gonna wait you fate or create it. Screw it!

  • trenchgun 11 days ago

    So... you did not read it, or did not understand what you read.

    • mahirsaid 11 days ago

      What? What part of my comment says i disagree with what i read. "did i read it, or understand it" did you? you seem lost.

simultsop 11 days ago

One starts wondering, is farming one of my strengths, is it something else.

As many says if AI does the creative part then I do the dishes, as opposite why we built computers for. Looks like we will be serving AI.

viccis 11 days ago

Funny to read this while I'm at the Snowflake summit, where every single vendor booth, keynote talk, and about 95% of tech talks are exclusively about agentic AI. Sometimes I wonder if everyone here is just pretending to like it because they have to, like a tech prostitute telling their investor john that that AI feature is the best they've ever had, it's so good. During Tuesday's keynote, one of the speakers kept getting salty that people weren't really clapping a lot, which was the only amusing part of a slog of a keynote that opened with an AI assisted DJ making "music" that might be fit for phone hold music, if that.

I don't even categorically hate AI. I just wish I could stop fucking hearing about it. These people killed their golden goose (shitty SaaS companies that feed into the giant human centipede of tech stacks that usually just ends up being ad tech at the top) and seem really pumped about it somehow.

  • LPisGood 11 days ago

    I keep hearing about the death of SAAS. How real is it, I wonder?

    • viccis 11 days ago

      My company has some products that are SaaS-like, insofar as you are basically just paying us for the ability to use our services, and then some that are less SaaS-like insofar as they consist of paying for ongoing work produced by people with extremely sought after expertise. For potential customers in the first category, I'm starting to see them say, we're deciding between you, company X, company Y, and building it ourselves with AI. It's actually now a concern that any proof of value engagements will involve them just scanning the APIs and workflows to use as references for their LLM agents. Meanwhile our other products are not impacted by this at all and AI just helps them scale workloads.

      We might see this die down a bit when people realize that the real reasons you don't just roll it yourself is that (a) you're paying the company to do it right and to be able to use an economy of scale to do it cheaper than you might even be able to yourself and (b) the real cost is not to build it but to maintain it.

keyle 11 days ago

Very good. A viable if any longwinded ode to the original. Which in itself is very fitting.

denysvitali 11 days ago

As the owner of https://thebestmotherfucking.website/ - I approve

auggierose 11 days ago

> Keep the dependency tree shallow — mine has a node_modules with its own gravity. Light bends around it.

Love that one. This LLM is fucking funny.

singingtoday 11 days ago

That was a fantastic read

oinoom 11 days ago

I’m getting some serious Frank Grimes vibes here [1]. I think the slop is causing people to lose their minds because the cognitive dissonance they have seeing it proliferate while hating it so much.

[1] https://youtu.be/0uqGKCDV1j8?si=JxQq2s5EbwzqMKjn

dheatov 12 days ago

Now Im suspecting if it's possible that VCs are part of the money loop, thus they are more than happy to fund as long as you pour enough of the funding back into the "AI ecosystem".

xiaoyu2006 11 days ago

Someone gotta send a patch to that email lol

platevoltage 12 days ago

No BS. No Fluff.

derangedHorse 11 days ago

> Here's how open source contributions go down: I clone your repo, point an agent at your test suite, and have it rewrite the whole thing in Rust to a "spec." No copyright infringed, your honor — an agent wrote every line to a clean-room description, and the description was just your code read aloud. The tests were the spec. The spec was theft. Theft was the pipeline.

I know this website is tongue-and-cheek but I did want to address this part. It's seems to be referring to:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47257803

I personally don't see re-implementing a project's specification from tests as theft. I also find it morally okay as long as the re-implementers don't lie about the original project (e.g. saying it's the clone to theirs, the original is X times slower when it's not, etc.). Legally, it would also be permissible since re-implementation of a spec, and even an api interface, has been established to be fair use:

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/04/05/google-oracle-supre...

  • elmerlandOP 11 days ago

    I agree with you! It's a shock to the system for a lot of folks to have their code base used that way. FOSS is often a labor of love by very smart folks. If it's legal (and the license allows for it), then it's fair game and hard/impossible to stop.

  • frizlab 11 days ago

    As a data point, the tests suite were the most precious thing one could have when I was at school. I’m not sure it’s that simple.

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