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Safari and Firefox change how big sites render based on the domain

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59 points by cdrnsf a day ago · 16 comments

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varun_ch an hour ago

I noticed the WebKit quirks file even has rules for new websites, like claude.ai.

That feels like a bad idea in my opinion… in my mind it would make sense to wait for Anthropic to address any browser compatibility issues, especially since claude.ai is clearly software that is being regularly worked on.

I can understand quirks for old websites/ones from companies that work very slowly, but this seems strange to me.

jamesfinlayson 16 hours ago

Oh, I thought Chrome did have a similar list - maybe I got confused with WebKit. This very site has one quirk: https://github.com/WebKit/WebKit/blob/25738effd8eeca9b8d15e4...

1718627440 3 hours ago

> Safari and Firefox change how big sites render based on the domain. TikTok, Netflix, Instagram… even SeatGuru. Chrome doesn’t. Why is that?

Because the Chrome implementation is implemented server-side.

tracker1 19 hours ago

I've seen similar issues simply by using Linux as my main desktop... some sites just won't work because of it, or seem to filter out "Linux" in the user agent. Which kinda sucks.

  • pmontra 18 hours ago

    Could you give an example? I've been working with a Linux desktop since 2009 and everything seems to work.

    • abrowne 14 hours ago

      Ditto. The only thing I can remember of is Apple Maps. They used to allow only Windows or something? But they relented eventually.

  • sli 18 hours ago

    This is one of the reasons why all of my browsers identify as a recent Chrome version. All of those problems just up and disappear. I started doing that when Google claimed (lied) that some of their products no longer support Firefox and would block me from accessing right up until my browser identified itself as Chrome. No bugs, no issues.

    • like_any_other 13 hours ago

      If market competition law wasn't reduced to dead ink, lying about your competitor's product, or abusing your dominance in one market to dominate another market, would at minimum carry painful fines.

      • piekvorst 7 hours ago

        I agree that lying should be illegal, but “domination” is vague. One could argue (and I would agree) that there’s nothing wrong with dominance if it comes down to just offering a superior product.

        And why should the cross-market context be treated differently?

pmontra 18 hours ago

Web services could have at least one developer using Firefox and another one using Safari. I'm the one with Firefox for my customers. Their web apps work with at least Chrome and Firefox. Safari is on them, if they have a Mac. Nobody ever complained.

phillipseamore a day ago

If Safari and Firefox had the exact same lists of sites and fixes I might agree, but they don't.

robthebrew a day ago

Just ditch Chrome and then the website owners see shrinking traffic.

  • cybercatgurrl 16 hours ago

    and how, pray tell, might we convince the masses to do this?

    • AuthAuth 16 hours ago

      Mindcontrol, space lazers, weather machines, genetically engineer actual firefoxes. Just a few ideas worth considering.

  • pseudohadamard 6 hours ago

    This is the exact same situation that got Microsoft tied up in endless antitrust investigations 30 years ago. Of course that was back when the US still had a government rather than a service bureau for billionaires.

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