The blame game: The Trump coalition is fracturing as Iran operation stalls
theins.pressPersonal opinion: Netty blackmailing Trump is the only scenario that even remotely makes sense.
Nothing about this fits with "America First".
What could possibly be the content of that blackmail? It feels like every couple of months some new horror drops, yet there he is, chuggin along.
What could possibly be the content of that blackmail?
Really? Trump's best friend was a pedophile.
Putin and Netty probably have pictures and video.
While there is no worls in which I support DJT, I don't think that his supporters and (more importantly) his material situation care about anything the guy actually does.
I could look at the "grab them by the pussy" thing and be disgusted but still think that there's something even worse that could come out which might discredit the guy.
But if the Epstein connections and his massive incompetence and massive corruption can't do anything, I can't see what would.
This is where I'm at. It's a cult and trumps believers will follow him to the kool aid. There's already quite a bit of proof that Trump had a relationship with Epstein and it hasn't made much of a difference.
>Really? Trump's best friend was a pedophile.
That was known before he ran in 2016, it didn't matter. Trump admitted that his wealth and celebrity made it easy to sexually assault women on tape and it only made him more popular to his base. And plenty of damaging images and far more direct links to pedophilia have come from the Epstein file releases since, despite the administration's best efforts. Where can you go after the allegation that Donald Trump punched an underage girl in the head after she bit his dick goes public and goes nowhere?
Honestly I don't think more pictures and more video is going to move the needle. Either you already accept that Donald Trump is very likely a pedophile based on the preponderance of evidence or you don't care. No one is going to be Pikachu face shocked by anything anyone could reveal at this point.
So you don't think that video of Epstein and Trump molesting an underage girl would have any impact?
There is already plenty of evidence and people have already made their minds up one way or the other.
Video would have some impact but only in the sense of throwing more kindling on the fire.
Video would have some impact but only in the sense of throwing more kindling on the fire.
Exactly the sort of thing Trump might be inclined to try and avoid prior to an election.
That makes sense for the first term but not the current one. Unless he plans a coup he can't run for a third term, he has nothing to lose.
The way things are looking, he may need to rig an election just to finish out this term.
I think most of his followers would call it fake news or just ignore it
Is this the majority of voters? I don't think so.
It might have started that way (I dunno) but these days it feels like just Trump being senile and incapable of admitting he made a mistake.
After all, MAGA supports Trump no matter what. ICE murdered two US citizens already. Trump could shoot a baby in Times Square and I don't think it will ever go below 30%.
But once you raise gas prices, that affects everyone's living cost. I don't think whatever video Epstein made could ever match that. (And these days MAGA will wave it away with "guh it's clearly AI, you libtards." You can't do that at gas station.)
Everyone already knows that Trump himself was a pedophile. Yet he's still president, and no one's seriously challenging him on this. When he said "I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody, and I wouldn't lose any voters", for once I believed him. His utter shamelessness gives him total immunity over any puny attempt at blackmail.
Is it really harder to believe that support from Israel is more complex than simple blackmail? There are a lot of pro-Israel people in and around power, Trump is far from alone on this. The Military Industrial Complex, Oligarchs, Corporations, they all win from the wars waged by Israel and the US in the Middle East.
for anyone that actually bought “America First” I have some Enron stock options to sell
Yeah I can't even fathom taking the guy at his word in 2016. To do it again in 2024 with the record that's available... but hey, all politicians lie right?
Ocham’s Razor suggests he is a narcissist surrounded by sycophants
It’s less appalling to believe that Trump’s worst decisions are made under duress.
Nobody in power cares about that "America First" bullshit. It's always their business first, and so far seems like their money is ok. But anyway, let's consider; what would be the worst case scenario? Let's say Netty leaks a video or several of Trump abusing young girls. In this cultural zeitgeist of conspiracy, fake news and AI content, how much of their fanbase would actually believe that?
It's easier to consider that Trump got played with his big ego and even if he's looking for an off ramp, there seems to be none that would let him off the hook while still looking strong, as him looking weak is the only thing that maybe could actually harm his business.
> ... is the only scenario that even remotely makes sense
I've got another one although it may not be that incompatible with your scenario...
What do you think a country willing to slaughter (January 2026) 30 000+ of its own people, sending islamists with assault weapons in hospitals to finish the wounded (and unarmed) and hanging publicly his athletes would do once it gets the atomic bomb?
Really: what do you think a country like that shall do?
I've got another one: one they'll have nuked Israel out of the world, do you think islamists are going to stop there?
Now we get to your scenario: maybe Netty knows Iran nuking Israel with the atomic bomb is coming and maybe it's blackmailing Trump (maybe for example Trump was in a threesome with Bill Gates when Bill Gates, factually, caught STDs on Epstein's island: who knows!?)...
But that still doesn't change my question: what is a regime made of murderers capable of killing 30 000 unarmed of its own people going to do to "infidels" all around the world once it'll be done with Israel?
Here is how your scenario breaks down.
1) According to Trump, their nuclear program was "obliterated" months ago.
2) They still have enriched uranium.
3) The Islamists are still in control --- only now it's the more extreme elements.
4) Unless Trump is preparing for a ground invasion to occupy the country, they will now be pursuing a nuclear weapon at all costs and as soon as possible.
The overall effect of the US attack may well be to make your nuclear horror scenario more likely. Let's see where we stand once TACO is done.
The above reply explains how Maga will carry on even if new Trump/Epstein news comes out. They'll do a what-about by pulling in some liberal involved with Epstein and then ignore it by focusing on something completely different, usually something based on Trump lies.
So you're saying a ground invasion is inevitable, the tweets and negotiations are a charade.