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A Crazy Expensive U.S. Drone Just Disappeared over Strait of Hormuz

forbes.com

23 points by Teever 7 hours ago · 14 comments

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Jtsummers 5 hours ago

> The Navy’s P-8 Poseidon aircraft is its premier asset for anti-surface and anti-submarine warfare. Made by Boeing, the Poseidon is also 737-sized, with a flight crew of two plus a team of seven to manage the sensors and other mission equipment on ten-hour flights. [emphasis added]

That bit I emphasized made me chuckle. The P-8 Poseidon is 737-sized because it's derived from the 737. This is not unusual for US military aircraft. Boeing already has the ability to build 737s, modifying one to meet particular mission needs is much cheaper than doing a total redesign and custom build (it will still be heavily modified, of course).

  • verdverm 4 hours ago

    Coming in at a cool ~$190M each in a recent budget

    • Jtsummers 3 hours ago

      The mods certainly aren't cheap, and it's still closer to a one-off production. But better to have a large chunk of it "off the shelf" than a totally custom aircraft.

Snoozus 3 hours ago

This calculation is a bit naive, you should at least take into account the capabilities and crew training and operation cost. That's before you start thinking about the cost of crew rescue missions. It seems to fly way higher than the poseidon, so I guess it covers more ground as well.

tomasphan 5 hours ago

Better a drone be shot down than a crewed P-8 no?

PearlRiver 4 hours ago

When America lost in Vietnam it was at least an honorable defeat: both the USSR and the PRC invested vast quantities of materiel and military advisors into the war. For decades. It was fought with stuff that was designed for WW3.

  • esperent 4 hours ago

    There was nothing honorable about the US war in Vietnam, from any side. You can make all kinds of arguments for and against the necessity of it. But honor? Bullshit historical revisionism.

    • verdverm 4 hours ago

      I think they mean at least the US lost to a worthy adversary, but I also think they underestimate the relative advantages each side has in this war. Perhaps Iran is not as weakly positioned as traditional measures of military strength suggest. Their are unique circumstances from geography and a paradigm shift from drone economics.

      • esperent 10 minutes ago

        [delayed]

      • __patchbit__ 3 hours ago

        Wars of choice are about getting paid enormous amounts to the owners of The Economist. The latest iteration has $5 billion installations wiped out by $7 thousand drone shots over weeks.

KennyBlanken 3 hours ago

Guess we can add that to the billion dollars worth of missile defense radar we lost in one afternoon...two units out of twenty.

Both pale in comparison to the amount of precision-guided weaponry that was burned through blowing up fishing boats and attacking oil tankers, and then bombing Iran.

It was estimated that in the first day alone the US burned through half its stock of some precision munitions.

The supply chain for those is years long.

If you were China, what would you be thinking right about now? Say, a vacation in Taiwan?

There's jack shit the US could do about it.

  • _blk 2 hours ago

    But to be fair, don't forget to compare that as a fraction of the Somali Minnesota fraud..

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