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Iran's attacks on Amazon data centers in UAE, Bahrain signal a new kind of war

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36 points by rawgabbit 7 days ago · 33 comments

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paxys 7 days ago

> The tech industry often talks about “the cloud” as though it were something abstract and untouchable. But the cloud runs on data centers, those data centers have an address, and that address can be hit by a drone.

Nominating this as the best opening line I have read in a while.

  • newsclues 7 days ago

    Information and logistics win wars, and you need lots of compute and storage in a modern war.

  • journal 7 days ago

    HN could post the IP address of commenters but they wont.

    • imglorp 7 days ago

      People used to add contact info in their .signature files (!): HTTP, IRC, (etc) and ICBM...

trhway 7 days ago

Buying an antidrone and even antimissile system like say Pantsir-S1, Skyranger 30 or similar is just few million dollars - peanuts compare to the cost of the datacenter to be protected. Once AMAZN starts doing it for themselves, they will possibly also start air-defense-as-a-service using spare capacity.

With all the money and assets and the whole value of business, the Big Tech has already started to move into energy, and i think the defense, starting with self-defense, will be among the nearest-future next domains they will move into.

  • OneMorePerson 7 days ago

    I dunno about defense as a service since those are pretty short range systems you mentioned (how would someone go "buy" excess capacity), but datacenters already cluster around common resources (water, etc.) so group buying some equipment to put in a ring around the datacenter area seems like it would be what they do.

    Yeah the use consumer grade rocket components made SpaceX become viable compared to bloated rocket companies. Short range anti missile systems are not large ordinance, they rely a lot on technology for tracking targeting, and they are not a "weapon" (as in they prevent damage not cause it except inadvertently) so it actually seems like something pretty feasible for a tech company. Build it with consumer grade hardware and you could deploy a ton of them.

    • etrautmann 7 days ago

      On a mobile platform though…

      Rentable defense is already a thing, but rapidly deployable mini-interceptors like Anduril and many others, or electronic countermeasures could plausibly become much more widespread.

      • OneMorePerson 7 days ago

        I guess I am splitting hairs but "spare capacity" heavily implies it's a non physical resource or it's able to be used in an instant. Almost like how if you had a global based missile system like a GBI (or not quite global but long range like a THAAD) you could near instantly have someone "bid" to use your missiles in an emergency scenario. Building short range interceptors and selling them or renting them is closer to the model of AWS itself, building a knowledge base hosting your own platform (Amazon.com retail) and then selling that knowledge to others. In this case building anti missile systems to protect data centers and then selling a packaged model to other companies. But it's not "spare capacity", it's selling expertise and helping to fund your own R&D.

      • trhway 7 days ago

        >electronic countermeasures could plausibly become much more widespread.

        don't forget the amount of power available in the datacenter. You can easily redirect say just mere megawatts to electronic countermeasures (would shut everything around down) or microwave and laser weapons. That for example is just 60KWt https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvQV7Mt02q4

  • mc3301 7 days ago

    If everyone has an antidrone/antimissile system, then everyone will finally be safe.

    • trhway 7 days ago

      the previous world order based on sovereign states is quickly coming to end. Emerging world order is based on force, and the large corps have more money than many states. The only thing they are missing is the rights of a sovereign entity. Well in a world order driven by force, the rights you have is the rights that you've obtained by force. I think we'll soon see, by analogy with corporate personhood, some version of corporate statehood.

      • OneMorePerson 7 days ago

        I don't think it happens quite that distinctly in the world we live in now (technology, etc.). It's not like a big tech company can go attain the same direct power as the East India company way back in the day. It's much more likely that companies continue to gain lobbying and "soft" power that directs the military into doing things. Large corps do have more money than many countries, so if a huge company wants to setup manufacturing or gain benefits in a smaller country they do have outsized power, but its rare that a huge company has more power than their own country from what I know (potentially oil companies are the exception which is why national oil companies seem to have so much weight in so many countries). For example sure the big tech companies are very powerful, but the US military budget per year is still nearly the same size as the largest tech companies market cap. Whereas you are right that a US big tech company has more revenue than say...Guatemala, or Morocco.

paxys 7 days ago

Striking public infrastructure is the oldest kind of war there is.

The article does raise an important question though - would an AWS data center be considered a civilian target or military?

whackernews 7 days ago

A new kind of war where people won’t be able to get next day delivery on the 5m USB-C cable that they ordered.

  • andrew_gs 7 days ago

    Or can't withdraw money from their FAB bank accounts as it's dependent on AWS infra. This is pretty much entirely to do with AWS and not the retail website.

  • fastball 7 days ago

    That is... not what AWS data centers are primarily used for in 2026.

    • whackernews 7 days ago

      You mean they’re not used to sell me cheap Chinese USB-C cables?

      • allanmacgregor 7 days ago

        You confused AWS with Amazon distribution and warehouses, and you are doubling down ? Likely or not, much of the world's infrastructure runs on or through AWS data centers. Attacks like this can cause significant disruption.

        • whackernews 6 days ago

          Maybe I’ll triple down. You’re telling me that AWS and even, why not, THE ENTIRE INTERNET is not built to sell me pointless crap? It’s just that it sure feels like it when I click around.

      • esseph 7 days ago

        AWS is also running government, military, medical, university etc systems. Banking.

  • dragonwriter 7 days ago

    Yes, Amazon Retail being the sole significant customer of AWS, I guess?

  • samrus 7 days ago

    Bro thinks amazon is the onky thing that uses AWS

prepend 7 days ago

Isn’t this just Iran trying to hit anything “of value” and it really a strategic target? I doubt they are thinking things through vs just firing off semi randomly.

  • perfmode 7 days ago

    When resources are finite and require precise guidance, why would they fire semi randomly when they can be strategic?

YVoyiatzis 7 days ago

WTF are Amazon’s data centers doung in the UAE? Excuse my ignorance, but why there?

  • achille 7 days ago

      - local data residency & sovereignty
      - latency
      - bandwidth 
      - regulatory climate
      - competition
    
    uae is business friendly

    all cloud providers have middle east presence

    refineries generate terabytes of sensor data per hour

    the population and people there produce and consume a lot of data

  • samrus 7 days ago

    Latency

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