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14 points by Nolski 16 days ago · 17 comments

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stockresearcher 16 days ago

It’s an interesting legal theory and seems like it would work. However, I would not be comfortable until it is tested in court. LLM models have “seen” an awful lot of code and may not be able to legally do the implementation.

fithisux 16 days ago

Author is

""" Mike Nolan

Chief Executive Officer MalusCorp International Holdings Ltd. """

s_dev 16 days ago

The state of the world is so depressing and I already believe this is satire but I'm only 99% sure. Can someone else confirm?

  • robtherobber 16 days ago

    I haven't spent too much time on it, so there's a good chance that I'm wrong, but it doesn't seem to be satire. I think that it's merely depressing and predatory, or depressing and predatory because it's a cynical sales pitch - a conversion funnel - that conflates what could be deemed to be real risks (supply-chain attacks etc.) with major exaggerations. They probably worked with a PR agency to devise this approach and thought that is was a very clever way to capture the attention of this exact community - which it may very well happen if it spurs a heated discussion and people end up mentioning their brand name and visiting their site.

    To be clear, engineers should not be required in the least to "maintain mental maps of which packages are safe and which will detonate their employer's IP strategy" simply because in the vast majority of cases they're not co-owners of that business or that strategy. That is overstated and intentionally misleading, I suspect. AGPL obligations depend on how software is combined and distributed or network-served, not on some magical "contamination" event from merely touching a package.

    Rhetoric through and through, in my opinion.

  • NolskiOP 16 days ago

    It works. It is hooked up to Stripe. You can upload your package.json and receive a fully cleanroomed set of dependencies to use yourself. It is up to you to determine whether this is a compelling product or a warning to those who care about FOSS.

    • pabs3 14 days ago

      Would be nice if it could clean-room replace proprietary software too. Would require automating the procedure this person did:

      https://reorchestrate.com/posts/your-binary-is-no-longer-saf... https://reorchestrate.com/posts/your-binary-is-no-longer-saf...

      • NolskiOP 14 days ago

        I do like this idea, more difficult to do without access to the original source code, and I think that this would be more "reverse engineering" rather than cleanrooming, as you don't have the same concerns about copyright violation if you're working from a binary.

        • pabs3 13 days ago

          I think the same copyright concerns apply when working with binaries, which is why clean-room reverse-engineering was invented in the first place. So that no disassembled/decompiled code could be copied into the newly created codebase.

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clean-room_design

          It would be a combination of reverse engineering and clean rooming, assisted with FOSS tools and LLMs; run NSA Ghidra to decompile the binary, LLM-clean the output code, LLM-generate the clean-room spec, LLM-verify the clean-room spec is not copyright infringing, LLM-generate code from the clean-room spec.

    • karel-3d 15 days ago

      It's a satire, if you google the authors it's even more clear.

  • pabs3 14 days ago
rahulxf 16 days ago

It's time to retire Nolski! Happy Retirement

tachyons 16 days ago

Good rage bait

DerArzt 15 days ago

No, I don't think I will.

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