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Waymo exec admits remote operators in Philippines help guide US robotaxis

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74 points by anigbrowl 12 hours ago · 22 comments

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neuronexmachina 3 hours ago

This was from congressional testimony this past week by executives from Waymo and Tesla, video and automated transcript here: https://www.c-span.org/program/senate-committee/tesla-and-wa...

svat 6 hours ago

Waymo's article from 2024 about these operations (“much like phone-a-friend”): https://waymo.com/blog/2024/05/fleet-response/

tengbretson 6 hours ago

I was once in a waymo stopped at a red light. Prior to the light turning green I felt a split second where the car's brake had been released, anticipating the change and then accelerating immediately when the light changed.

Since this experience I've just assumed all waymos have some warehoused human drone pilot actually controlling it.

  • thebruce87m 2 hours ago

    There are many other possibilities such as the system having learned the timings or another vehicle in the fleet observing the lights turn red at the other part of the junction.

    The least likely possibility is a person controlling the vehicle directly over a variable latency connection that may fail completely at any time.

  • akanet 4 hours ago

    Waymo remote operators cannot drive the car

ravenstine 10 hours ago

Having physical brains in the loop seems like a good thing.

  • jjeaff 6 hours ago

    I think some are wondering if these overseas employees are driving cars in the US without a US driver's license.

bryan_w 11 hours ago

> “They provide guidance. They do not remotely drive the vehicles,” Peña told the Senate committee. “The Waymo vehicle is always in charge of the dynamic driving tasks, so that is just one additional input.”

SilverElfin 10 hours ago

I think everyone knew this and is comforted by it. I’d be concerned if there weren’t humans ready to guide or take over. The company we should all be concerned about is Tesla, and their irresponsible way of falsely advertising full self driving capabilities. Who knows what those robotaxis are capable of.

OsrsNeedsf2P 12 hours ago

Ok, and?

  • anigbrowlOP 2 minutes ago

    [delayed]

  • MBCook 6 hours ago

    Then they’re not really self driving are they?

    • bryan_w 6 hours ago

      The assistants don't have access to the gas pedal or steering wheel input. The car is the only thing actually piloting the car i.e. self driving

      * Unless it gets super stuck, then a human drives out and gets into the physical driver seat and takes over

    • lysp 4 hours ago

      My assumption is they can provide input such as "you should make a left/right lane change" to get out of a "stuck" location.

      So when the car's systems prevent it from taking a specific action, they can override it for a single instance.

  • jjeaff 6 hours ago

    Do they have driver's licenses from a US state?

    • TheDong 3 hours ago

      Waymo has a blog post on what these remote assistance people do: https://waymo.com/blog/2024/05/fleet-response/

      They effectively are answering questions like "is this road closed", or "is the object in front of me a solid object or a weird shadow".

      These are not the sort of questions that US driver's license is really related to, it's not things like "can I legally turn right on red at this intersection".

      Do we require a driver's license to solve Google reCapture questions like "what squares have a bike in them"? Because the waymo stuff is closer to image classification than driving.

    • whatever1 4 hours ago

      Is Waymo software licensed by a dmv ?

      • Grimblewald 3 hours ago

        Yes. Something you should intuit, and is eaisly confirmed with a quick search. It is licensed to drive and the conditions underwhich it may do so are clearly stipulated. If it didnt require a license elon would have his deathtraps littering roadsides with mangled flesh and steel everywhere. Perhaps ask yourself why you asked such a misguided question and consider what you can do different in your cognitive patternd to avoid it in the future.

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