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89 points by oalders a month ago · 21 comments

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shrubble a month ago

I’m aware of two large telecom companies that use Perl extensively, but in-house and internal services only. They don’t have anything “public” to point to.

I will say that the extensive backwards compatibility is a big reason why Perl remains; there’s no pressure to change or get rid of “old” programs when they just keep working year and year.

schrectacular a month ago

Originally switched to fastmail in '03 or so because they used perl. Kinda sad they sunset my "lifetime" plan but _guess_ I understand.

  • qingcharles a month ago

    Been with them since '04. One of the very few companies where I have literally zero complaints. Still a shame they sunset your plan :(

  • altairprime a month ago

    Yeah, I was pretty sad about the end of the pobox lifetime discount, but I understand why.

lp4v4n a month ago

I started working in the 10's and I have never met a single developer who actively works with Perl.

Sometimes I wonder whether Perl left a huge code base behind, like COBOL did, but I suspect it didn't, mostly due to the fact that Perl is a dynamically typed language used mainly for web development and sysadmin scripting.

Perl unlike Java, which had no serious alternative in its niche, unfortunately has an uncertain future in my opinion. Not that Perl is going to disappear suddenly like coffee script, but as the old timers retire or pass away in the next decades, I can certainly see the language slowly "evaporating".

  • doublerabbit a month ago

    Perl is being migrated to Python. Two of the big banks I know have been running LLM tooling to migrate from. My last job was for a fortune 10 bank.

    I personally learnt it at the age of 17 as the homemade switchboard for MSN Messenger bots were coded in it.

    I'm 36 now and still not letting go. Something about the syntax pleases my brain. I am currently learning Erlang.

    • markoman a month ago

      Were these (bank) applications focused on text-processing or web applications? If they were web applications, I assume they weren't CGIs...

      • doublerabbit a month ago

        For what I can expand upon, not web applications per-se. They displayed management pages accessible via browser for different departments to manage, resource management, statistics, estimated costs and calculations.

        The main usage were on back office tooling such as reporting back job queues, status of specific jobs, load balancing and the likes.

    • librasteve a month ago

      this

  • ei8ths a month ago

    I work in Perl daily, in k12 as a sys admin / network engineer. I have it do all my automation, some internal web apps.

    I started on Java, PHP, C++ and during my php years i discovered Perl because we needed it at work for systems. I just love it.

  • qingcharles a month ago

    It was big in the mid-90s for writing web apps, IIRC. There weren't many options in the early days. I was writing web apps in pure C, which wasn't really ideal.

toomuchtodo a month ago

As a Fastmail customer, I appreciate these sorts of efforts. Thanks Fastmail!

ifh-hn a month ago

I've never used perl but use exiftool everyday.

I was going to start using it on the cli, but then ended up learning powershell, and then moved to nushell. I don't see myself learning it now.

scottchiefbaker a month ago

Long live Perl... it's my favorite CLI scripting language.

  • mariogreymist a month ago

    there are other good scripting languages but I know Perl so I've never really needed any of them

    • lizknope a month ago

      Same here. I started learning in 1995. I've learned and use other languages but if I have a choice then I use Perl. Most stuff I need to do at work is either Tcl for EDA tools or text report processing where I use Perl

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