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DHS: Critical ICE surveillance footage from abuse case was never recorded

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138 points by cf100clunk 2 days ago · 21 comments

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Brian_K_White 2 days ago

In the quaint olden days there used to be a concept that the appearance of impropriety was as bad or worse than actual impropriety for exactly this reason.

the_snooze 2 days ago

The purpose of a system is what it does.

Pwntastic 2 days ago

https://archive.ph/eSpJw

brrwind 2 days ago

Why was this flagged?

  • BoredPositron 2 days ago

    404 is auto flagged.

    • slater 2 days ago

      It's not.

      • viraptor 2 days ago

        Dang's response a while ago when I reported a dead 404media link:

        > The site 404media.co is banned on HN because it has been the source of too many low-quality posts and because many (most?) of their articles are behind a signup wall. So that's why that one was killed. I've unkilled it now.

        (I'd extremely disagree with the low-quality part)

      • BoredPositron 2 days ago

        You are right it's auto dead and needs vouches which in return reduces the flag threshold.

  • RobertDeNiro 2 days ago

    There are pro-Trump bots that automatically try to get things removed if they paint the administration in any negative light.

  • ronsor 2 days ago

    The real reason:

    > Off-Topic: Most stories about politics, or crime, [...]. If they'd cover it on TV news, it's probably off-topic.

    From the guidelines linked at the bottom of the page.

1attice 2 days ago

Why is this flagged? When did Internet censorship become a non-tech story?

JKCalhoun 2 days ago

I'm reading it was from a "system crash", or maybe it never existed, and that even if it existed it would be of no use.

Okay.

cyberge99 2 days ago

How much will that cost taxpayers when a judgment is entered for punitive damages?

belter 2 days ago

Clearly the same team that was doing tech support for the Epstein cameras.

  • actionfromafar 2 days ago

    Maybe we can soon get an "unedited, raw" video with a mouse pointer on it!

  • goatlover 2 days ago

    Forget which Youtube channel it is, but there was a video recently detailing how one of the cameras that was supposedly not working the day of Epstein's death, had footage from the next day even though it was supposedly not fixed along with the other cameras until a few days later. I believe this footage was part of a recent Epstein files dump, when they DOJ was still doing dumps. It was from a different angle that gave a much better view of downstairs cell block including the stairs going up to his cell.

jandrese 2 days ago

Running the administration's statement through my bullshit filter says they deleted the footage because it was too incriminating. I am also skeptical about the statement that it's irrelevant because they fixed the problem.

  • cucumber3732842 2 days ago

    Nah. Nobody who's career goes anywhere in government is that dumb.

    I'd bet a lot of money that once things got "bad for my job" level bad people turned off the recording without having to be told. This is SOP slimy government behavior. Everything from your local permitting office to the CIA.

    So they're probably right, the footage never existed, but the reason is even more damning.

    • jandrese 2 days ago

      Counterpoint: Have you seen this administration? You don't think Kristi Noem would tell a baldfaced lie if it served her interests? I mean we only have several examples of her doing exactly that.

      This is the government you get when you hire based on loyalty instead of competence.

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