Settings

Theme

Maintenance: Of Everything, Part One

press.stripe.com

152 points by mitchbob a day ago · 30 comments

Reader

rockmeamedee 11 hours ago

I'm interested in the topic, and the book cover looks great, so I'll probably read it.

But it seems a bit "Maintenance: For Boys". The items mentioned on this page are "the maintenance of sailboats, vehicles, and weapons", and "Soviet tanks, or tricked-out Model Ts".

No mention that for millenia we were mending our clothes, cleaning our houses, maintaining our food systems.

The reason this book sounds interesting is that maintenance is systematically undervalued, and basically in our human history pushed onto women and the lowest social classes. But the marketing material seems to highlight only the "sexy" stuff like weapons and vehicles. Where's the maintenance of washing our hands, washing our clothes, cleaning our streets?

There's this artist, Mierle Laderman Ukeles, who was the "Artist in Residence" at NYC's department of sanitation in the 70s, and tried to use conceptual art as a way to highlight the work of the department and make "maintenance art" a thing. I'm interested in that kind of re-valuing of maintenance.

I bet this book will be interesting, I just don't like the framing as "Maintenance: Of Everything" since it's clearly not the whole story. Hopefully part 2 has a broader scope and mindset.

  • constantius 10 hours ago

    I don't disagree with your desire to see house/clothes/etc. maintenance covered, but this is such a perplexing comment.

    As far as I understand, you take the book's title to be being false advertising, and seem to be upset that it leaves out some subjects.

    How does one get upset that an author didn't include handwashing instructions in a book?

    You could have made your (very true) point about the devaluation of some maintenance work as a general observation, without shaming the author for omitting some subjects of your choosing. What does it achieve to go into a culture war based on the description of a book you haven't read?

    The book is basically one chapter according to the table of contents: Vehicles. On some bookshop, it's even shelved under the automotive category.

    What review did you write to Hawking's Theory of everything?

    • buffington 6 hours ago

      I don't think you're being fair. You're turning "I don't like the framing" into "a culture war".

  • ontouchstart 5 hours ago

    There should be a volume about maintenance of our bodies and minds (without depending on technologies that consume a lot of energy and resources).

whilenot-dev a day ago

Stewart Brands article The Maintenance Race[0] was one of my favorite posts in 2022.

[0]: https://worksinprogress.co/issue/the-maintenance-race/

EDIT: discussion at that time: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32196345

  • titanomachy a day ago

    “In his journal [Crowhurst] would diligently make a list of projects that needed to be done, do a few of them half-heartedly, and then lose interest. Since he never got around to organizing his stowage, he had to ransack everywhere to find things.”

    This hits close to home… I don’t think I should be a sailor.

  • Noumenon72 8 hours ago

    I want to inform readers that the article is about three people. There's no transition when they start talking about the second one, and I didn't remember the names, so I didn't figure it out till the end of the article and missed all the contrasts.

  • huevosabio a day ago

    Yes, this article was one of the best articles in the last few years. And to this day I think about it. It has that property of good writing that lingers with you way after you read it.

    Can't wait to read the book!

kwiens a day ago

I was fortunate to read a preprint of Brand's latest. It's magnificent.

How and why do things fail? What are the cultures that lead to long-lasting products?

The undercurrent here is that Brand is behind the 10,000 year clock and has a vested interest in making things last a long time.

This book is an exploration of the world of things, how they break, and how people fix them. It's a huge effort, and Part One is right. He's been posting further work on Twitter from Part Two.

He included some sword fighting manuals that I sent that we think are the earliest written instruction guide.

  • koakuma-chan a day ago

    > The undercurrent here is that Brand is behind the 10,000 year clock and has a vested interest in making things last a long time.

    What do you mean by this? I have no idea who Stewart Brand is, and I am wary of authors who advertise themselves by saying how many books they have written, because it makes me think they are fiction writers rather than people with real knowledge on the subject.

leroyrandolph 18 hours ago

The cover art is such a master stroke. See Kintsugi: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kintsugi

---

Edit: Sorry, my mind was preoccupied with buying the book instead of elaborating.

The interactive 3d render of the book and the gold gleam of the Kintusgi sent me absolutely gushing.

steve_adams_86 a day ago

Sean Carroll interviews Stewart about this book on his latest podcast episode:

https://www.preposterousuniverse.com/podcast/2026/01/19/341-...

I really enjoyed it. I'll probably get a copy of this. I loved the thermodynamics analogy in the start of the podcast, likening maintenance to the prevention of entropy, with all the energetic exchanges that entails. Though maintenance does take work, it's worth it. Stewart makes a compelling case for it.

  • mkw5053 19 hours ago

    Thanks for the link. I used to listen to every podcast from Sean Carroll but have fallen off recently, I'm excited to jump back in with this one.

chauhankiran 5 hours ago

As robots are creating products, they are using all the space possible making human to interact difficult (think about opening a screw). Previously, those products created by human hands, making it possible to interact by other human hands (as maintainer).

Now, I think same about making programs by AI. They do sometimes in such a way that makes future maintenance harder.

The problem comes when price is not cheap.

mmillin a day ago

This is a topic I’ve been wanting a book on for a long time. We’ve done so much work to eliminate the need for maintenance for the masses through things like planned obsolescence, renting instead of owning, and appeasing the hedonic treadmill. I can’t help but feel through this we’ve lost a lot of collective skills in patience and ownership as a result.

I’m looking forward to reading this.

lowmagnet a day ago

Gotta maintain The Machines of Loving Grace.

elil17 a day ago

Since when is Stripe a book publisher?

  • wavemode 16 hours ago

    This was discussed in the past: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17551687

    To hear Patrick Collison tell it, "we see that one of the main limits on Stripe's growth is the number of successful startups in the world. If we can cheaply help increase that number, it makes a lot of business sense for us to do so."

  • esafak 19 hours ago

    This is the founder's bookshelf: https://patrickcollison.com/bookshelf

  • kwiens a day ago

    I guess 2018. I learned about them relatively recently and IMHO they're doing a pretty darn good job.

    • patch_cable 19 hours ago

      The books are also physically really pleasant to hold and look at.

      I’ve read each book they’ve published and enjoyed them all.

      • criddell 9 hours ago

        The J.C.R. Licklider book was difficult for me just because the font is small. I ended up finding an epub version and read that instead and loved it. The physical book is beautiful though and I'm glad I have it.

throwaw12 11 hours ago

If anyone has already read this book, can you share your thoughts on how does it compare to software engineering, do you see parallels, are they applicable and so on

oulipo2 14 hours ago

That's really wonderful! That's exactly what we're doing at https://infinite-battery.com with a made-to-be-easily-repairable e-bike battery :)

  • ErroneousBosh 10 hours ago

    Can you do the same with mid-drives too?

    One of the reasons I drive a 30-year-old Range Rover is that I have a complete copy of all the service documentation for it, in an easily-downloadable 500MB zip file which also includes manuals for a bunch of other models. I need roughly the same number of specialised tools to maintain and repair it as I do to repair and maintain my (perfectly ordinary non-electric) bike, although all the individual components are far heavier and considerably more likely to get oil all down my trousers.

    Permaculture starts with things you can repair.

Keyboard Shortcuts

j
Next item
k
Previous item
o / Enter
Open selected item
?
Show this help
Esc
Close modal / clear selection