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South Korea seeks death penalty for ex-president Yoon over martial law bid

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24 points by nodesocket 13 hours ago · 15 comments

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nodesocketOP 12 hours ago

What's the odds the US gives asylum to Yoon? Death penalty seems a bit extreme.

  • rsynnott 3 hours ago

    > Death penalty seems a bit extreme.

    Can't even do a bit of light treason without being executed these days! It's political correctness gone mad.

    I'm not in favour of the death penalty. I live in a country which hasn't executed anyone since 1954, and the death penalty has been unconstitutional since 2001. However, South Korea has the death penalty. If you're not going to use it for this, what _are_ you going to use it for?

    • krapp 2 hours ago

      >If you're not going to use it for this, what _are_ you going to use it for?

      I don't know, ask my fellow Americans. Our President committed light treason and we not only re-elected him, our Supreme Court gave him absolute immunity from all future crimes while in office as a treat. He's a pedophile and a tyrant, blatantly ignoring Congress and the courts, colonizing and threatening foreign countries, sending masked thugs into the streets, targeted universities and protestors for political oppression and censorship, destroying America's regulatory and scientific infrastructure in the name of purging it of wrongthink (etc etc etc) and neither our government nor 300 million Americans armed to the teeth and ready to water the tree of liberty with the blood of tyrants seem capable of doing anything about it.

      I'm vehemently against the death penalty because I don't believe the state's monopoly on violence should extend that far (assuming for the sake of argument that it must exist at all) but I have to credit South Korea for having a system that can stand up to pressure. Wish I could say the same for us. We coasted until the civil war then collapsed then stumbled still half-wounded until 9/11 then folded like a paper cup.

      • rsynnott 35 minutes ago

        The US president is _allowed_ a bit of light treason, as a treat. Or so it seems. I don't think _any_ of them have ever been prosecuted for stuff done while in office?

  • impossiblefork 6 hours ago

    Death penalty for one guy seems very mild.

    If this happened in Sweden, we'd have been shooting at the participating soldiers while it went on with machine guns, seeking out people associated with the coup and killing them in their homes etc.

    If someone is committing a coup, you go 100%, because if they succeed you don't have a country any more.

    This guy invited this in a democratic, orderly country. What crime is worse? If it were me I'd have wanted the death penalty for any participating soldiers too.

    • anonnon 4 hours ago

      > If this happened in Sweden, we'd have been shooting at the participating soldiers while it went on with machine guns, seeking out people associated with the coup and killing them in their homes etc.

      Yeah, that's exactly the kind of resolve one associates with a nation that rolled over, even to the point of active collaboration, when the Soviets invaded one democratic neighbor and annexed chunks of their territory, and when the Nazis subsequently invaded and occupied the other. The "Captain Sweden" meme exists for a reason.

    • nodesocketOP 6 hours ago

      Lol what world do you live in? In Sweden killing political adversaries? I've lived in Sweden winter (Stockholm 2 months) and summer (1 month) and made many friends. None, have talked about killing political coupes like you say. I'm actually pro US gaining controller of Greenland (it would open up enormous economic tailwinds)... Business.. Actual property rights, instead of government owned land with leases. US owning Greenland would be a crazy boom to their economy. I for one, would buy land.

      • impossiblefork 6 hours ago

        Killing coup-plotters and their associates would happen immediately as soon as anyone began to execute a coup.

        Lots of people have access to weapons (mostly for hunting, but still) and lots of people have done their mandatory military service and know that coups are illegal. They would certainly fight.

        My point is that inviting that-- i.e. creating the situation where people have to fight and kill the coup plotters and anyone who sides with them, is a very extreme thing where killing only the plotters themselves is the mildest outcome.

        This would happen as soon as a government said 'we're blocking the riksdag from meeting'. No one in Sweden from any political party in the Riksdag would ever do that though, it's of course unthinkable.

        • nodesocketOP 6 hours ago

          I don't fully get what you're saying... But if you think a few thousand farmers in Greenland will fend off Delta force soldiers, I suggested you rethink your strategy. 20 Delta force took down hundreds of soldiers in Venezuela (with 0 loss of US soldier life), you think farmers have any chance?

          • anonnon 4 hours ago

            I don't see what any of this has to do with Greenland.

            But his posts describing his fellow countrymen as if some "berserker" spirit lies dormant within, are so credulity-straining that I initially assumed they were ironic, but then I remembered what site I was on (orange reddit), and how irony unqualified by "/s" is swiftly met with downvotes or flags, so he must be serious.

  • smt88 11 hours ago

    If trying to overthrow a democratic govt doesn't deserve the death penalty, nothing does (which is a reasonable position to have)

  • yongjik 11 hours ago

    Well, South Korea hasn't executed anyone for 20+ years, so death penalty is more or less symbolic here.

    Also, Yoon is very unpopular, and he's a moron, so he has zero use for America even if he somehow magically teleported there. Besides, Trump somehow seems rather infatuated with SK's current president Lee, after he was gifted a golden crown, so I don't think Trump would want to piss off Lee for some useless dude - he probably doesn't even remember who is Yoon.

  • add-sub-mul-div 11 hours ago

    Americans have been trained to view a descent into fascism as a topic that cable news people argue about, but it's actually quite serious!

chews 10 hours ago

South Korea really loves their drama, the previous President was under the spell of a cult leader and 300 people (mostly children) were likely intentionally drowned in a ferry "accident".

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