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Video filmed by ICE agent who shot Minneapolis woman emerges

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222 points by onemoresoop 16 days ago · 268 comments

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hypeatei 15 days ago

Here is a synced up version (from both angles):

https://bsky.app/profile/ragnarokx.bsky.social/post/3mbz7pt4...

> I synced up the video from the Johnathan Ross and a bystander to help show what was happening when he fumbled his camera. He was already out of the way at that point and already had his gun drawn. It wasn't him being hit, it was him shooting Renee Good.

  • xtiansimon 15 days ago

    He killed her.

    Watching the synced videos, I'm realizing now the sound of "OOHHH" does not come from the shooter, but afterwards. It's another officer. I no longer have the impression of an officer surprised, threatened and reacting to danger.

    You can clearly see on the POV-cam the driver's hands turning the steering wheel. She's trying to get out of that situation and drive away. That's clear, and it gives the shooter time to step out of the way.

    Well, the shooter is not having it. And despite there being a civilian on the other side of the car, and officers all around the car, he choose to kill the driver, discharging his weapon. Felony Obstruction becomes punishable by death.

    _"There is a time when the operation of the machine becomes so odious, makes you so sick at heart, that you can’t take part; you can’t even passively take part, and you’ve got to put your bodies upon the gears and upon the wheels, upon the levers, upon all the apparatus, and you’ve got to make it stop. And you’ve got to indicate to the people who run it, to the people who own it, that unless you’re free, the machine will be prevented from working at all!"_ – Mario Savio

    The ultimate sacrafice

  • jrs235 15 days ago

    Notice he's also holding his phone out in front of his body making it appear that the vehicle was closer to his body than it really was.

kccoder 16 days ago

People with this level of lack of constraint and trigger-happiness shouldn't possess firearms or the authority to interact with society in a law-enforcement (or immigration) capacity.

  • slg 15 days ago

    The part that gets me is that even if you stipulate that this man’s life was in jeopardy and that the driver’s actions justify using lethal force (which I don’t agree with, but just go with me for a second), his actions clearly did not make himself or anyone else safer. Just look at what happened to the car after he shot her, it swerved off out of control and rammed another car. It should be obvious that a car without a driver is much more unpredictable and dangerous that a car with a driver, so how can you believe that killing the driver was the appropriate response.

    Even if you think he was justified in his use of force, everyone should be able to see that how he used force was at best inappropriate. Not being able to admit that is a sign that you’re letting your bias overrule what you’re seeing.

    • jrs235 15 days ago

      The Legal Concept: Barnes v. Felix (2025)

      This is the most critical recent "code" development. In May 2025, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled in Barnes v. Felix that courts must look at the "totality of circumstances" leading up to a shooting.

      The Rule: If an officer recklessly steps in front of a vehicle (creating the danger themselves), a court can now rule that their subsequent use of force was unreasonable because they "precipitated" the threat.

      Impact: This case effectively ended the "moment of threat" defense, where officers used to argue, "It doesn't matter how I got in front of the car; I shot because it was about to hit me." Now, the law says: "If you put yourself there unnecessarily, you are liable."

    • hypeatei 15 days ago

      The cruelty is the point. They want to appear like strong-men dealing with criminals and the base goes along with it. In reality, they're quite weak and know this is very unpopular so they've dedicated press conferences along with the VPs time and the President's time to calling the victim a domestic terrorist.

    • immibis 15 days ago

      He wasn't trying to keep anyone safe. He was trying to get revenge for being bumped with the car (which was his fault because he walked in front of it). She bumped me, so I shot her. People with this quick of a temper make great gestapo agents as they make sure the population knows not to mess with the gestapo.

  • duxup 15 days ago

    They shouldn't, and shouldn't be given a job like that. But I think it's by design. Create confrontation so the administration can take further steps.

    A lot of these guys behave like they really want someone to provoke them so they can shoot someone ... even when they're not provoked:

    https://www.reddit.com/r/ICE_Raids/comments/1q7u4kz/ice_agen...

    https://www.reddit.com/r/minnesota/comments/1q7y43s/cbp_poin...

    These are the folks this administration want out there, to distract folks, fracture country, all of the above probably.

  • closingreunion 16 days ago

    The agent was according to VP "traumatized" from an earlier event, yet was on the street with a firearm.

    • prodigycorp 15 days ago

      And the thing is that if the agent is putting himself in situations where he's getting dragged by cars, there's clearly an issue with training.

    • amelius 16 days ago

      Sounds like a more systemic problem then.

      • Zigurd 16 days ago

        I doubt the people creating these problems understand "systemic."

        • salawat 16 days ago

          That is a quality specifically selected against or so I hear. LE wants executors and enforcers. Not thinkers.

  • _DeadFred_ 15 days ago

    He hand switched at the 29sec mark freeing up his right weapon side hand. He was along the side of her vehicle at the time.

  • wrs 16 days ago

    Nor should the people who hired them.

mickle00 15 days ago

Why would the ICE agent release this? Does he think this makes him look good? (it doesn't...)

  • WickyNilliams 15 days ago

    Not to exonerate him, but to condemn her. For being a woman, who did not know her place. For many that alone will justify her murder

bbatsell 16 days ago

Absolutely fascinating that this report is very detailed about _certain_ things... but edits the source video to fade out right at the relevant instant and then completely omits the fact that the agent called her a "fucking bitch" immediately after executing her. (The released source material is several seconds longer.)

Edit at 21:29 UTC: BBC has edited the article to include the following line: "In the final part of the video the car is seen veering down the road. The ICE agent swears." Again, that "final part" has been edited out entirely. It shows that the agent was not affected by the SUV, and maintains his iPhone in his offhand recording the incident without issue. "The ICE agent swears." is used euphemistically to obfuscate what he actually did and said, which was to angrily call the victim a "fucking bitch".

denom 16 days ago

The shooter’s final comment in that video I think accurately sums up his mental state: completely disconnected his actions.

cmxch 13 days ago

because narrative security apparently precedes truth here, because truth that counters narrative must be silenced.

https://x.com/AlphaNews/status/2009679932289626385?s=20

She accelerated against the officer, hit them, he defended himself, which stands counter to the bloodlust directed towards ICE.

Order of events based on video analysis:

- The agent approaches the vehicle, which is stopped or slow-moving.

- The woman speaks through the window (partial audio/transcript includes phrases like "Big boy, show your face," "I'm not mad at you," and references to not changing plates or being a U.S. citizen—tone appears defiant or sarcastic).

- The agent positions himself near or in front of the vehicle.

- The SUV then accelerates forward, with the hood/grille filling the camera view (suggesting very close proximity, potentially a bump or near-miss).

- The camera shakes/tumbles, ending with views of the street and the vehicle driving away.

moralestapia 16 days ago

I'm not from the US so I have to ask,

Are ICE agents like police? In the sense that, can they detain someone they suspect of being a criminal, etc...?

  • hairofadog 16 days ago

    The fourth amendment of the constitution says

    > The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

    However, our Supreme Court is out of control, and Justice Kavanaugh recently issued a ruling allowing racial profiling, meaning people can be detained for looking a certain way. These sorts of racially motivated detentions are now known as "Kavanaugh Stops": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kavanaugh_stop

    So ICE agents don't have to suspect them of any crime; if they "look illegal", they can be detained and deported without due process.

  • JohnFen 15 days ago

    I didn't see another comment that just answers the question plainly, so I'll give it a try...

    ICE agents are police officers and have all the powers that police officers have. They're under federal jurisdiction rather than state, county, or city. The only limitations are what does or does not fall under their jurisdiction. For instance, they don't have the power to enforce traffic laws (because those aren't federal), but they can certainly arrest you for breaking federal laws or detain you while investigating them.

    • xiphias2 15 days ago

      The part (as a person of another country) that I don't understand is why people even here on HN is so much against people whose job is to arrest people who broke federal laws.

      As I see those laws are not really knew, they were just not enforced during the previous administration as strictly, but people who broke those laws did it consciously.

      Do people really care about the people who broke the laws or just hate the current administration so much?

      • RajT88 15 days ago

        I will try here.

        Illegal presence is a civil violation. Civil violations are not crimes (in the sense the law is divided into civil and criminal law):

        https://www.findlaw.com/legalblogs/criminal-defense/is-illeg...

        Sneaking across the border is a crime. Overstaying your visa (70-80% of "illegal immigration") is not a crime. It is more analogous to a parking ticket in terms of severity.

        The thing is - for a long time immigration was not enforced because the legals paths were blocked off to create a class of cheap labor to drive the American economy. It worked, and it source mostly jobs which citizens did not want to do. (Not entirely, and yes it did depress wages)

        It is a complicated issue.

        • the_doctah 15 days ago

          >Chief among these civil penalties is deportation or removal, where an unlawful resident may be detained and removed from the country.

          • RajT88 15 days ago

            The deportation part is the defensible part of the story. It is a lot more than "sending them home". What's going on is excessive. It's worth mentioning - the people being "deported" have something in common, and it's not necessarily their immigration status, it's overwhelmingly their ethnicity.

            The Polish and eastern European community by me doesn't seem to be having any deportation issues, despite having a lot of illegal immigrants via visa overstay.

            • the_doctah 15 days ago

              That's because they aren't the ones causing the biggest problems

              • RajT88 15 days ago

                Latinos are - statistically - causing less problems than citizens.

                In fact, they are propping up our economy. I had suspected you were posting in bad faith; now I know for sure. Our immigrant population - legal and not - solve more problems than they cause, and the numbers show that.

                Thanks for putting the lie - explicitly, in your own words - to the idea this is about the law. You were fine with European illegal immigrants which cause similar amounts of issues (few) to Latinos. The difference is ethnicity. Full stop.

              • defrost 15 days ago

                Indeed.

                Being black and being accused of eating pets causes a great many problems.

      • scarecrowbob 15 days ago

        Last week they kidnapped a guy who has been in my community for 20 years.

        I don't really care one bit about their legal status- these folks are a part of my community and I don't want them to be kidnapped.

        That is the whole thing.

        If a persona can live here and have a house and a job, I don't think it's okay to kidnap them.

        End of story.

      • JohnFen 15 days ago

        I think that the objections have more to do with the unnecessary violence, cruelty, and demonization the feds are engaging in, and the fact that they're targeting people who have every legal right to be here, than the law enforcement itself. The feds also going out of their way to subvert justice and defy our system of law and as such, they represent a threat to us all.

        > they were just not enforced during the previous administration as strictly

        They were not enforced so cruelly, perhaps, but the Biden administration was not exactly lax about this stuff. They were deporting people in record numbers. They just weren't tossing aside things like basic human dignity, respect for the law, and due process when doing so.

        • giardini 13 days ago

          johnFen says >" They just weren't tossing aside things like basic human dignity, respect for the law, and due process when doing so. "<

          And those who enter the country illegally: where is their respect for the law and where was their acceptance of due process in entering the country? They broke the laws while others did it the legal way.

          When you break the law and you don't submit to the legal system you are a criminal.

          • defrost 12 days ago

            > When you break the law and you don't submit to the legal system you are a criminal.

            Weird take when ICE are infamous for staking out courthouses and scooping up people working their way through applications and appeals.

            Further, undocumented aliens in the US are guilty of civil infractions not criminal felonies .. these are a seperate issue altogether.

            * https://www.aclu.org/sites/default/files/field_document/FINA...

            * https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/fact-sheet/debunk...

            Perhaps consider getting a clue about this rather than repeating falsehoods.

            • giardini 11 days ago

              thanks! From the first URL you provided:

              "Entering the United States without being inspected and admitted, i.e., illegal entry, is a misdemeanor or can be a felony, depending on the circumstances. 8 U.S.C. § 1325."

              Q.E.D.

              • dragonwriter 11 days ago

                Being in the US without legal status does not require illegal entry, because legal entry does not automatically come with permanent status. Being undocumented is a civil/administrative matter, not a crime, though some of the undocumented may also have committed crimes.

  • mekdoonggi 16 days ago

    They are armed like special police forces, acting on behalf of the administration, with no legal jurisdiction. They are like an occupying force. Our congress will not reign in the administration, and so we are being terrorized by our own government (that we also pay money to :))

    • giardini 13 days ago

      They do have jurisdiction: they are legally police officers who can enforce all laws: federal laws directly, state & local laws by arresting and passing detainees to state and local authorities.

      • defrost 12 days ago

        False.

        They have limited police powers, particularly against actual citizens.

          ICE sees its mission as encompassing both public safety and national security. However, its powers are different than the average local police department in the US.
        
          Its agents have the power to stop, detain and arrest people they suspect of being in the US illegally. They can detain US citizens in limited circumstances, such as if a person interferes with an arrest, assaults an officer, or ICE suspect the person of being in the US illegally.
        
          Despite this, according to news organisation ProPublica, there were more than 170 incidents during the first nine months of Trump's presidency in which federal agents held US citizens against their will.
        
        See: https://www.propublica.org/article/immigration-dhs-american-...

        Again, consider becoming better informed.

        • giardini 12 days ago

          Sorry, dude, they'll arrest you whether you're a citizen or not if they see you commit a crime and they're interested.

          FWIW every police officer has "limited police powers" - the statement is vacuous. Federal police don't usually arrest for local law violations, local police don't usually arrest for federal law violations, etc.

          So "limited police powers"? Well yes, they won't write a parking ticket, but they'll shoot your ass. I'd be wary of telling people that ICE agents have "limited police powers."

          Using the left-leaning screed propublica as a reference is foolish.

    • jaybrendansmith 15 days ago

      We should all stop paying taxes at once.

  • mamonster 16 days ago

    From this video they look more like the Sturmabteilung....

  • mickle00 15 days ago

    majority of the educated US see them more akin to Sturmabteilung

  • beAbU 15 days ago

    More like the German SS or Russian KGB or Gestapo. Including the "papers please" cosplaying.

  • commiepatrol 15 days ago

    They are federal police, they have authority, you must obey their orders.

  • vunderba 15 days ago

    They certainly have less training than police - where typical academy can last anywhere from 4-8 months. As I understand it, ICE agents only have 47 days of training.

    From the Atlantic:

    > New deportation officers at ICE used to receive about five months of federal-law-enforcement training. Administration officials have cut that time roughly in half, partly by eliminating Spanish-language courses. Academy training was shortened to 47 days, three officials told me, the number picked because Trump is the 47th president.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2025/08/ice-rec...

    https://archive.is/Fu8wN

  • clot27 16 days ago

    They can detain whoever they suspect of being illegal immigrant

Hikikomori 16 days ago

"That's fine dude. I'm not mad at you."

"Fucking bitch"

And people here defend his actions as self defense. He was angry. He shot in anger. This is murder.

tomlockwood 16 days ago

ICE agents should be tried in the Hague.

andrewinardeer 15 days ago

Remember a week ago? Everyone was talking about the Eppy Files. Crickets now, huh?

like_any_other 16 days ago

See also: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46559015

mekdoonggi 16 days ago

Imagine if Biden's Attorney General had gone on TV wearing a cowboy hat and said, "Derek Chauvin was acting in self defense" one hour after the video came out.

What the admin is doing is treason.

JCattheATM 16 days ago

Of course this is flagged lol

joeyh 15 days ago

This video has been edited at 0:42, likely removing something from it. Source: CBC analyst

  • focacin 15 days ago

    CORRECTION — Jan. 9, 2026: An earlier version of this post, based on CBC News Network’s initial interview with Warrick, cited his belief that the video had been edited. Warrick has since said he no longer believes the footage was edited, based on additional analysis and review of multiple angles. CBC News’ visual investigations team was unable to find evidence the video had been edited from its original form. This post has been updated to reflect Warrick's new comments.

    https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/livestory/ice-shooting-minneap...

  • daemonologist 15 days ago

    CBC quote:

    A security expert who has analyzed the new video filmed by an ICE officer says it appears to have been edited to remove crucial moments that show when shots were fired at Good.

    Thomas Warrick, a senior fellow at the Atlantic Council think-tank, said when the 47-second-long video is watched second-by-second, it briefly goes black around the 42-second mark.

    "There's no logical reason why somebody holding a cellphone has a black frame at that point," said Warrick, a former deputy assistant secretary for counterterrorism policy at the Department of Homeland Security.

    He said the phone evidently didn't fall to the ground, because the officer is holding it at the end of the video and pointing it toward Good's car.

    "So, clearly, he never dropped the phone. Why is that black frame there? What happened?" Warrick said.

    "This is going to fuel the narrative that evidence is being manipulated."

    https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/livestory/ice-shooting-minneap...

    • nmeagent 15 days ago

      Warrick apparently retracted that accusation after closer examination, FYI.

  • defrost 15 days ago

    That was very much my initial reaction.

    ( I'm outside the US, I've worked for deacdes in "intelligence" (being accurate about video, signals, resources, data) for well heeled private clients and state, national level governments. )

    Wider angle earlier release video that showed the other officer approach the side window, reach in and attempt to grab keys and or unlock and open door (prompting car to reverse, turn wheels, and move forwards) show this officer turning, crouching, drawing, stalking in to aiming at driver all prior to the forward motion.

    This released footage does not appear to have that sequence.

  • irthomasthomas 15 days ago

    Watch it slowed down and you actually see the officers face for a frame before it goes black as he presses the phone against himself at the exact moment he fired.

  • RajT88 15 days ago

    One gunshot in the new video. Three in the old one.

  • tsoukase 15 days ago

    Where is the bam-bam moment? Of course the video is manipulated.

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