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April 9, 1940 a Dish Best Served Cold (2021)

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77 points by vinnyglennon 6 days ago · 13 comments

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silisili a day ago

Interesting. In the US at least Crotons are rather popular as houseplants. I've kept them for years, and never knew of this property or story.

Assuming it's true, I wonder if any documentation exists at all from one of the affected souls on those subs.

  • thadt a day ago

    A cursory search doesn't seem to turn up anything solid.

    But it would be interesting to know. I'll be in the German diary archive in March and made a note to keep an eye out for it.

dreadsword a day ago

I love the thought that perhaps the battle of the atlantic was influenced by the "nuclear bomb of laxatives" haha

whycome a day ago

https://www.fishersci.ca/shop/products/croton-oil-thermo-sci...

The spec sheet here suggests it’s pungent. I wonder if this truly worked or if the smell would make it immediately obvious.

  • alephnil 20 hours ago

    Without having smelled croton oil myself, canned brisling (which is what it is, even if it was sold as sardines) has a quite strong smell and taste. I can easily imagine that it could mask the pungent smell of the croton oil.

bell-cot a day ago

Sounds cool. Also sounds like something the Kriegsmarine could trace back up their supply chain. Which the Resistance would know. What was their plan for that, and how did things work out?

hulitu 3 days ago

Another Historical Easter Egg from Wikipedia [1]:

"Medicinal" croton oil was supplied in the California Genocide to dying Indian groups.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Croton_oil

  • ndsipa_pomu a day ago

    > Forced labor, kidnapping, rape, child separation, and forced displacement were widespread during the genocide, and were encouraged, tolerated, and even carried out by American government officials and military commanders

    The lesson we learn from history is that we don't learn from history

    • chasil a day ago

      Palm Springs, California is the home of a successful Native American tribe that owns half the town.

      I wonder how the escaped this. Maybe it's on their wiki.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agua_Caliente_Band_of_Cahuilla...

      • Someone a day ago

        > I wonder how they escaped this.

        It seems by cooperating with the US government, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cahuilla#History:

        “During the Mexican–American War, Juan Antonio led his warriors to join Californios led by José del Carmen Lugo in attacking their traditional enemy, the Luiseño. Lugo led this action in retaliation for the Pauma Massacre, in which the Luiseno had killed 11 Californios. The combined forces staged an ambush and killed 33–40 Luiseno warriors, an event that became known as the Temecula Massacre of 1847. (Historians disagree on the exact number of deaths; Luiseno oral tradition holds that more than 100 warriors were killed.) In the treaty ending the war with Mexico, the US promised to honor Mexican land grants and policies. These included recognition of Native American rights to inhabit certain lands, but European-American encroachment on Indian lands became an increasing problem after the US annexed California.

        […]

        In addition to the influx of Anglo-American miners, ranchers and outlaws, and groups of Mormon colonists, the Cahuilla came into conflict with the neighboring Cupeño tribe to the west. In November 1851, the Garra Revolt occurred, wherein the Cupeno leader Antonio Garra attempted to bring Juan Antonio into his revolt. Juan Antonio, friendly to the Americans, was instrumental in capturing Garra, ending that revolt. When the California Senate refused to ratify an 1852 treaty granting the Cahuilla control of their land, some tribal leaders resorted to attacks on approaching settlers and soldiers. Juan Antonio did not participate in this as long as he lived.

        To encourage the railroad, the U.S. government subdivided the lands into one-mile-square sections, giving the Indians every other section. In 1877 the government established reservation boundaries, which left the Cahuilla with only a small portion of their traditional territories.”

    • wat10000 a day ago

      Those who don’t learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

      Those who do learn from history are doomed to watch helplessly as everyone else repeats it.

      • whycome a day ago

        Sometimes people seem to learn from history by treating it like a playbook.

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