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MyTorch – Minimalist autograd in 450 lines of Python

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100 points by iguana2000 3 months ago · 19 comments

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brandonpelfrey 2 months ago

Having written a slightly more involved version of this recently myself I think you did a great job of keeping this compact while still readable. This style of library requires some design for sure.

Supporting higher order derivatives was also something I considered, but it’s basically never needed in production models from what I’ve seen.

jerkstate 3 months ago

Karpathy’s micrograd did it first (and better); start here: https://karpathy.ai/zero-to-hero.html

  • alkh 3 months ago

    Imho, we should let people experiment as much as they want. Having more examples is better than less. Still, thanks for the link for the course, this is a top-notch one

  • iguana2000OP 2 months ago

    Karpathy's material is excellent! This was a project I made for fun, and hopefully provides a different perspective on how this can look

    • jerkstate 2 months ago

      I'm very sorry, I should have phrased my original post in a kinder, less dismissive way, and kudos to you for not reacting badly to my rudeness. It is a cool repo and a great accomplishment. Implementing autograd is great as a learning exercise, but my opinion is that you're not going to get the performance or functionality of one of the large, mainstream autograd libraries. Karpathy, for example, throws away micrograd after implementing it and uses pytorch in his later exercises. So it's great that you did this, but for others to learn how autograd works, Karpathy is usually a better route, because the concepts are built up one by one and explained thoroughly.

  • richard_chase 3 months ago

    Harsh.

  • whattheheckheck 3 months ago

    Why is it better

    • forgotpwd16 2 months ago

      Cleaner, more straightforward, more compact code, and considered complete in its scope (i.e. implement backpropagation with a PyTorch-y API and train a neural network with it). MyTorch appears to be an author's self-experiment without concrete vision/plan. This is better for author but worse for outsiders/readers.

      P.S. Course goes far beyond micrograd, to makemore (transfomers), minbpe (tokenization), and nanoGPT (LLM training/loading).

    • tfsh 3 months ago

      Because it's an acclaimed, often cited course by a preeminent AI Researcher (and founding member of OAI) rather than four undocumented python files.

      • gregjw 3 months ago

        it being acclaimed is a poor measure of success, theres always room for improvement, how about some objective comparisons?

      • nurettin 3 months ago

        Objective measures like branch depth, execution speed, memory use and correctness of the results be damned.

        • CamperBob2 3 months ago

          Karpathy's implementation is explicitly for teaching purposes. It's meant to be taken in alongside his videos, which are pretty awesome.

      • geremiiah 2 months ago

        Ironically the reason Karpathy's is better is because he livecoded it and I can be sure it's not some LLM vomit. Unfortunately, we are now indundated with newbies posting their projects/tutorials/guides in the hopes that doing so will catch the eye of a recuiter and land them a high paying AI job. That's not so bad in itself except for the fact that most of these people are completely clueless and posting AI slop.

        • iguana2000OP 2 months ago

          Haha, couldn't agree with you more. This, however, isn't AI slop. You can see in the commit history that this is from 3 years ago

khushiyant 2 months ago

Better readme would be way to go

  • CamperBob2 2 months ago

    In iguana2000's defense, the code is highly self-documenting.

    It arguably reads cleaner than Karpathy's in some respects, as he occasionally gets a little ahead of his students with his '1337 Python skillz.

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