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Cryptology firm cancels elections after losing encryption key

bbc.com

18 points by tagawa 23 days ago · 24 comments

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jtokoph 23 days ago

Previously: A cryptography research body held an election and they can't decrypt the results https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46020596

tomhow 23 days ago

Previously:

A cryptography research body held an election and they can't decrypt the results - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46020596 - Nov 2025 (38 comments)

sschueller 23 days ago

Some things just work, like paper ballots. No reason to re-invent the wheel or to "verschlimmbessern" what works.

We vote a lot in Switzerland on a lot of issues but we do so on paper ballots which we can either drop directly in the box or send in the post. When there is a close vote the maximum wait for a result is usually around 4-5 hours so that isn't really an issue either. Counting is a highly distributed effort and IMO that also reduces the risk for large scale fraud.

  • scotty79 23 days ago

    It absolutely doesn't work. All paper elections have some (acceptable and accepted) level of fraud. We should move to mathematical system, that still uses paper but let's the voter confirm that thier vote was properly counted. There was a TED presentation about this many years ago.

    • compsciphd 22 days ago

      I agree with you. the counter that some people make (that I personally disagree with as being a reason to not do it) is that anything that lets voters confirm that their vote was properly counted also enables 3rd parties to influence said voters (i.e. buying a vote is more valuable if one can validate that bought vote was actually delivered).

      Personally I find other mechanism to heavily criminalize vote buying as being effective to discouraging that behavior and providing a slip of paper to the voter that enables them to post factor validate that their vote was counted as they believe it should have been to be much more valuable.

      but its important to address the issue that some people have.

      • scotty79 22 days ago

        Given that votes are already bought for money (through political marketing) maybe it's not a strong problem to use technology that enables more direct and honest vote buying.

        Who knows, maybe that's a road to equivalent of universal income. Being paid for your vote for one party or another.

        This system was described in Spanish Beggars by Nancy Kress

    • MattPalmer1086 22 days ago

      All these clever voting systems suffer from the problem that most people just don't understand it well enough to trust it.

      Paper elections are simple and everyone understands them. The controls are largely that there are a lot of observers.

      Trust is vital in elections.

    • soco 23 days ago

      Evidence says it works. And evidence beats ted talks any second, to the constant surprise of the tech (or influencer) community.

      • scotty79 22 days ago

        Ok. If "works" means, "is good eonugh to be used for the purpose", I guess it works. But shamanistic medicine wokrs by the same measure so it's really not a high bar to clear.

        • Gud 22 days ago

          Not really? Shamanistic medicine doesn't work.

          Switzerland has the highest functioning democracy on the planet.

          • scotty79 22 days ago

            > Shamanistic medicine doesn't work.

            It worked enough for people to be using it.

            > Switzerland has the highest functioning democracy on the planet.

            Somehow I think being completely secure in last two world wars contributes to the success of their high functioning democracy. Also, I thought we were talking about elections not democracy.

            Democracy can work perfectly well even if the elections select completely random party to rule if all parties are good enough.

          • soco 22 days ago

            I guess, but I only guess, that if it's not happening in the States it means it's impossible and shamanistic. Kind of like universal healthcare, you know.

pxeger1 23 days ago

Why does the IACR use the term "cryptology" rather than "cryptography"?

belter 23 days ago

https://www.iacr.org/news/item/27138

stavros 23 days ago

It sounds like "3 out of 3" is too risky, as you're basically tripling the risk of losing a key (but you're reducing the risk of compromise). Something like "3 out of 4" would have been a better balance, in my opinion, but I think there were technical issues in requiring such a quorum (I think I read that the encryption scheme didn't support it, but don't quote me).

glitchc 23 days ago

This headline is incorrect, elections were rescheduled, not canceled.

anonymars 23 days ago

I guess it's my turn to post it -- https://m.xkcd.com/2030/

Like fine wine

potato3732842 23 days ago

Better than losing the key and finding a "workaround" I guess.

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