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Google is blocking AI searches for Trump and dementia

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50 points by SLHamlet 3 months ago · 16 comments

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WarOnPrivacy 3 months ago

Note that this is about search, not AI so take it for whatever it's worth.

There were some articles this week about frontotemporal dementia and the president. I tried to find other, unrelated sources by putting the condition in quotes and without the president's name.

I couldn't get any results, from the time period I knew articles had been published. I looked for a while. I included -willis to exclude Bruce Willis stories.

The results seemed unfindable until I included the president's name or something equally unique (ex:"executive order").

I would have forgotten about it if it weren't for this HN submission.

FWIW, I eventually turned up what's out there. This week's story seems like a variant of the same story that's run every couple of months. It didn't seem like the story had progressed in that time but details are pretty thin.

  • JKCalhoun 3 months ago

    It appears to be about search blocking AI — or AI looking for specific patterns and not returning normal results.

    Wrong regardless.

zuminator 3 months ago

I put in the query "do any recent presidents show signs of dementia?" and got an AI summary that mentioned both Trump and Biden, and even Reagan.

Like other things involving LLMs, you can often get around restrictions by crafting your prompts to avoid the specific trigger conditions.

  • tzs 3 months ago

    Are you logged in?

    When I enter that query while logged in it tells me "An AI Overview is not available for this search", but when I do it in an incognito window I got an AI summary that sounds like the one you describe.

  • DaveZale 3 months ago

    Good tip.

    I tried the AI that Brave browser provides. There was no explicit answer (deleted) but the links were not deleted. I posted one of those here. Earlier today I tuned into a Chris Hedges podcast. An interview with Ralph Nader. He has a couple dozen impeachable offenses tallied. But his criticism of the Democratic Party was just as severe as his criticism of the President.

    I am not stating any political bias here, but downvote away, you who hold the awesome power of the downvote click.... I hope it makes you feel better for at least a moment.

  • rsynnott 3 months ago

    > and even Reagan.

    ... Why _even_ Reagan? Like, he fairly uncontroversially had Alzheimer's.

    • zuminator 3 months ago

      You're not wrong, but I said "even" because Reagan isn't what I think of as a recent president, which is what I put in my query.

mac-attack 3 months ago

Poking fun at Winnie the Pooh feels less funny now

  • Yizahi 3 months ago

    There are two of them now. The whole zoo is coming together, year by year :(.

DaveZale 3 months ago

https://robertreich.substack.com/p/why-isnt-the-media-report...

verdverm 3 months ago

A lot of companies are blocking political queries because they want to avoid the PR shenanigans of people baiting the AI into saying something that will offend Dear Leader.

I don't blame them, I blame the media ecosystem the oligarchs are increasingly taking over and using to fuhr'er their hold over the people

Midjourney did this about one year ago

_aobj 3 months ago

What is the difference between google blocking a search, and some one at google pretending to be an AI. Personally, I do think the President should be allowed censorship out of respect for the Title of Office. But then so should past Presidents. Which seems to show that Google has no respect and actively discredits its customer base. Judging by Microsoft Co-pilot AI performance, I feel a shake up of Google is over due. As the Meta/Google split has done nothing. In fact with the introduction of Android mobiles. The impartiality of a Telecommunications carrier has been legally breached! But I am not a lawyer, so only the evidence of past Telecommunications practises, exist to be examined and compared! (Remember when mobile phones had voice mail messages. Like "Please leave your your name and number, and the Presidents 'AI' will get back to you" De La Soul !)

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