AP Live: View from Gaza as Israel Begins Expanded Operation in Gaza City
youtube.comDear Moderators Please could you reconsider the designation of this post as being flagged? I will happily trust your judgement and conclusions. Live feeds from this region are very rare. This insight is not covered on most outlets. It is a subject seemingly of interest to this forum as illustrated by the engagement and upvotes; greater than most of my posts. Thank you so much.
Discussions I have seen on this topic users flag people's responses that they don't like. This site isn't structured for that sort of 'discussion'. The other current related one already has multiple responses flagged dead. I know I don't attempt to post on these discussions anymore other than pointing this out.
We will look back at this moment in our history and wonder how we let it happen.
What can we do, in addition to what we're already doing? For example, in Norway, the recently elected leading coalition is (mostly) very vocal about ending the genocide. And the sovereign oil fund just divested out of quite a lot of the genocide-profiteers (including Caterpillar, who sell displacement-as-a-service, leading to threats of more tariffs from the US). And there are flotillas of activists trying again and again to sail with aid towards the Gaza strip, getting themselves attacked by drones (even in Tunisian waters, long before reaching Gaza). We donate to savethechildren etc. but most of the aid isn't even allowed in. This is not a case of "we've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas". The enemies of humanity, decency and righteousness are just so overwhelmingly strong.
you could for example send international force in order to deal with hamas occupation of gaza in a "civilized way, the one that Israel doesn't know how to execute", rescue hostages and to distribute aid to civilians.
but I guess it's easier to just issue proclamations that Israel doesn't do things right. and make "recognition of state of palestine without hamas". where exactly hamas going to go ? evaporate ?
This video feed feels like I'm watching some Adam Curtis b-roll live. Currently the camera, based in Israel, is panning across the land to catch explosions as the plumes of smoke rise, with people talking, music from the radio, or occassional car doors closing in the background.
Also, this got flagged. Weird.
Can’t let reality ruin the mood.
Forced Displacement.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forced_displacement
When forced displacement is paired with food/starvation as a weapon it becomes a genocide. The recent senate report just carefully labels it as a deliberate ethnic cleansing.
https://www.vanhollen.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/van_hollen_me...
Also a UN commission of inquiry.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/sep/16/israel-committ...
Israel really doesn't like being exposed like this.
They'll claim it's a Hamas camera, then bomb it, probably killing some of the people nearby it.
The camera is filming from within Israel.
There's another camera in Wadi Gaza showing people fleeing northern Gaza toward the south. From about 1h26m onwards.
yep, this is the one that I saw. There is another one in Isreal itself which is a smart move, no way will they bomb that.
>no way will they bomb that.
Are you sure?
I doubt they would bomb their own country.
I doubt that doubt. They have had no trouble shooting their own hostages.
Where do they got internet connectivity?
I know there is Paltel in West Bank; but I don't know if they are still operating in Gaza.
Jawwal who are owned by Paltel.
Starlink?
Isn't that too slow for live feed? The live feed looks very good quality, and they look like they are sitting in a truck now, so I doubt they can cary starlink antenna
It's bandwidth versus latency. Two different aspects. A live feed going one way works fine over a high('ish) bandwidth link as long as there's no need for interactive (back-and-forth) traffic. See it as a highway. The highway can be very wide with lots of lanes (=bandwidth) but to get from point A to B can cover a large distance (latency)
This is a GENOCIDE
There is no other word
Not to diminish, but there would be more Armenians, jews, Cambodians, Tutsi, koulaks if all genocides were like this.
You're actually actively trying to diminish. I'm going to be nice to you and pretend it's because you don't know the definition of genocide and that it isn't linked to the number of dead people
It is officially declared a genocide by the UN commission.
I'm shocked that this post went into negative points territory. It highlights the sentiment of the community here, that we don't even value the governance that was setup to maintain the checks and balances. An organisation tasked with gathering the evidence, checking the facts and then declaring a conclusion that can then be used arguably to convict war crimes is being criticised, incredible. What has happened to us? Listen, we can be disillusioned with the state of the world, but we have to realise that no solution is black or white, no outcome is immediately rectified, no criminal is caught and prosecuted at the time of the crime. And while we can be critical of the governing bodies created to deal with it, they are there for a reason, because the alternative is a wild wild west we don't want to go back to. What we're witnessing in terms of the starvation, bombardment and heinous acts are something humanity has worked tirelessly to avoid. We need to be optimistic that if not today but soon, this report will actually be used as the evidence to convict the criminals who need to be jailed and punished for their horrific acts against humanity. And to add, that goes for anyone who violates the boundaries set forth and anyone who kills innocent people, for any reason. In Islam, it has been dictated that during war you will not kill innocent people. Even the prisoners of war must be treated fairly. We must remember that individuals, groups, they are not representative of an entire philosophy or people e.g whether one body commits a terrible act in the name of a religion does not mean the people who live in peace and harmony advocate for it. But those who oppress and murder others for decades upon decades, they must be held to account.
Maybe this post also gets buried, but if I didn't speak my truth I couldn't live with myself.
The UN is just a glorified board room for countries to discuss things, it has no executive powers over its permanent security council members and their allies.
Basically, the UN can declare whatever they want, but there's nothing stopping the likes of US and Russia to ignore it and do the opposite of that.
It's the League of Nations all over again. Nothing has been learned.
It also spent the last few years making the problems out there worse. They are themselves complicit in this outcome.
There are no winners in this conflict on either side.
>There are no winners in this conflict on either side.
There is ONE winner here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_Israel
I think we all know this, it's very obvious.
What is crazy is that, even a denouncement, is coming way too late. Now some countries are, very slowly, starting to talk about what this is: a genocide. It's horrible that it's so slow, and there is so much support or inaction towards the state of Israel.
Still, IT IS A GENOCIDE.
US's & Germany's greatest ally.
Current US president wants to build golf resorts with golden statues of himself!
If anything, US citizens who emigrated to Israel, have great share of responsibility!
>If anything, US citizens who emigrated to Israel, have great share of responsibility!
What about AIPAC members? Which is about 80% of congress.
Genocide live stream. What a time to be alive.
It is not safe to flee south of Gaza, there is no infrastructure there to support millions of refugees! Refugees should go to Israel, it is much better equip to host refugees from this conflict!
NO BORDERS!!