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CBS Canceling 'Late Show with Stephen Colbert' After Next Season

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82 points by ClosedPistachio 5 months ago · 82 comments

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abtinf 5 months ago

> "[it's] purely a financial decision"

> "It is not related in any way to the show’s performance"

Naively, these seem like contradictory statements.

  • FirmwareBurner 5 months ago

    >Naively, these seem like contradictory statements.

    It isn't contradictory. They don't want to publicly admit "hey nobody watched our unfunny show" because then it might impact their shares/valuation. Most likely that show was a loss leader.

  • readthenotes1 5 months ago

    Among other things, Colbert said:

    “Now, I believe this kind of complicated financial settlement with a sitting government official has a technical name in legal circles: It’s big fat bribe, because this all comes as Paramount owners are trying to get the Trump administration to approve the sale of our network to a new owner, Skydance.”

    maybe they are worried that Colbert will say things that are actionable and could lead to more lawsuits?

    • throw0101d 5 months ago

      > maybe they are worried that Colbert will say things that are actionable and could lead to more lawsuits?

      Trump sues people even if things are not actionable. (And sometimes those people cave / bend the knee.)

    • Klonoar 5 months ago

      Colbert still has months to say those things, though, so it's a bit of a moot point.

  • x3n0ph3n3 5 months ago

    It could be that Colbert's pay has outpaced advertising revenue.

    • joeyagreco 5 months ago

      If this were the case, wouldn't we see a new host instead of a complete cancellation?

    • whoknowsidont 5 months ago

      Yeah, definitely not related to the buyout nor the close ties that the executive team has to Trump.

      • FirmwareBurner 5 months ago

        Yes? If nobody watches your show anymore because you're an unfunny corporate mouthpiece, how do you justify the salary for you and your team?

        • Capricorn2481 5 months ago

          Colbert had the highest ratings of any late night host and it's not even close. Even amongst dwindling ratings across all late night shows, he was big. Pretty hard to believe this was a purely financial decision made at the exact time he made his comments about Paramount.

          Also not sure how being laid off for criticizing your host networks back channel deals with the White House makes you a corporate mouth piece, but what do I know.

    • FirmwareBurner 5 months ago

      Crazy you're being downvoted for having a voice of wisdom, but HN is ideologically captured so not questioning the groupthink party line does give you the downvotes.

pm90 5 months ago

Extremely disturbing to see the US Press go the same way as the Indian Press did under Modi.

  • dehrmann 5 months ago

    I'd worry more about defunding public broadcasting or the Washington Post editorial stance. There's a good faith argument here that the cause was market conditions:

    > The genre has been struggling as the majority of the country migrates in droves to streaming entertainment and away from traditional broadcast and cable television...

    > The number of late-night shows has dwindled in recent years...

    > The genre has also experienced a sharp decline in advertising revenue in recent years...

  • Sai_ 5 months ago

    At some level, it is worse. The Indian press never sold us citizens koolaid about freedom, talking truth to power, and patted themselves on the back about winning Pulitzer Prizes for journalism.

    The Indian press knows it is a bottom feeder and doesn’t try not to be which gives space for critical thought to emerge (even if it masked as extreme cynicism - “everyone is corrupt”) which results in extreme skepticism of everyone.

  • ProAm 5 months ago

    America is over as we have known if for the last 95 years

    • andrewinardeer 5 months ago

      All good things must come to an end and when one door closes, another opens.

      Perhaps Colbert will sign with another network and bring bigger and better ideas to the small screen.

      • whoknowsidont 5 months ago

        This is like telling someone to switch from Comcast to another ISP. The choices are limited. Oh and in this case, they're all owned by like two media conglomerates.

  • nwah1 5 months ago

    The Late Show has an elderly and shrinking audience. And, Colbert hasn't been funny in years, nor has he been challenging the powers that be.

    When he did the White House Correspondents' Dinner and roasted George W Bush, that was extremely edgy. The Colbert Report was also wickedly funny.

    But the Late Show makes John Oliver look like Lenny Bruce.

Flatcircle 5 months ago

The show cost 100 million a year to make a loses 40 million a year. It's not just politics

https://x.com/MattBelloni/status/1946236833668731390

whoknowsidont 5 months ago

Why are these very interesting and topical threads being flagged? I'd love for someone pressing that button to explain the rationale.

burnt-resistor 5 months ago

According to Keith Olbermann, a far-ish left progressive, on his podcast The Late Show's cancellation it really was primarily due to financial difficulties of it being too expensive in a declining industry of traditional media where there are barely any OTA TV or cable viewers. Their overhead is too much and their internet audiences don't make them enough money. This is a classic horse and buggy company failing to adapt to an automobile world.

He also made it known he doesn't care personally for Colbert who rapidly took a proverbial wrecking ball to David Letterman's set to effectively damnatio memoriae his predecessor and obliterate all potential memorabilia.

  • euroderf 5 months ago

    > rapidly took a proverbial wrecking ball to David Letterman's set

    What's this about ? Letterman had the skyline behind his desk; was anything else memorable ?

RickJWagner 5 months ago

I’m not surprised that a late night host was let go, I’m surprised it was Colbert.

Jimmy Kimmel has a well documented history of racist and sexist skits. Every time a new video of his past emerges, it’s got to be an embarrassment for his network.

Poor luck for Colbert.

DrNosferatu 5 months ago

Really confused about this:

Why the flagging?

Flatcircle 5 months ago

Shouldn’t be surprising, every late night show is going to end soon. They’re all too expensive

  • dawnerd 5 months ago

    It’s currently the number one late night show. It’s not about money. It’s because the president pressured them after Colbert called the network out Tuesday for taking a bribe.

    • dec0dedab0de 5 months ago

      I think Gutfeld is number 1 overall, and has been for a while.

      But TV ratings overall are down so low, I haven’t had cable since 2003, and at the time people thought I was a radical. Now it seems like the people that have cable are the rare ones, Especially if there is noone over 45 in the house.

      There is a reason they all format their shows in a way that is easy to break up into youtube videos. If they didn’t, most kids under 30 wouldn't even know who they are

      • tim333 5 months ago

        I'd never heard of Gutfeld - I'm a Brit - so checked it out - https://youtu.be/MflEEkCFtHY It doesn't seem very good..? The first few seconds is him jokinging insulting various democrats and the audience groaning.

      • xnx 5 months ago

        > I think Gutfeld is number 1 overall, and has been for a while.

        From what I saw, Gutfeld is top in that time slot, but not for late night overall.

        I agree that cable is crazy to pay so much money for and still have frequent and long commercial interruptions.

  • paleotrope 5 months ago

    How can they be so expensive? Unless you mean in relation to ad revenue.

    It's one host, maybe a band, they don't pay the guests cause their there to pitch their show/music/book/film. Maybe all the extra staff they need to write jokes and whatnot. Maybe all the drug advertisements really don't pay all that much anymore.

    • favorited 5 months ago

      Late night talk shows are extremely cheap, compared to regular scripted television. It's one of the reasons why NBC was so excited about moving Jay Leno to 10pm when Conan took over The Tonight Show:

      > The Jay Leno Show WILL be significantly cheaper than any primetime scripted show NBC could program. Primetime scripted programming usually costs about $3 million per hour; so the five hours NBC is revamping would total about $15 million per week. This new Leno show will cost NBC less than $2 million per week. ... So, not only does NBC get to KEEP its primetime hours, it gets to program them with a more cost-effective show.

      https://www.writersdigest.com/industry-updates/jay-leno-nbc-...

    • Flatcircle 5 months ago

      the hosts costs a fortune

      • metabagel 5 months ago

        Supposedly, Colbert makes $15 million a year, which is about $100,000 per episode. It's not really outrageous for a host of a national television program.

  • nemomarx 5 months ago

    How expensive can they be? One set, minimal editing?

  • metabagel 5 months ago

    It's surprising that the most successful late night show is going away first, and the optics of it happening while Paramount is trying to curry favor with the Trump administration couldn't be worse.

iancmceachern 5 months ago

Why was this post flagged?

ivape 5 months ago

Their beefing over South Park as well:

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/sou...

At the heart of the dispute: a new 10-year, $3 billion overall deal for Parker and Stone that would more than triple the valuation of the current deal that expires in 2027

Yeah. So that's not going to happen lol.

  • paleotrope 5 months ago

    "One possible factor in the negotiations: an $800 million loan that Park County took in 2023 from private equity firm the Carlyle Group. Parker and Stone could be squeezed for cash to repay roughly $80 million in interest per year, according to one person knowledgeable of the arrangement, who noted that Paramount may be open to paying more than $150 million annually in a new deal but not for 10 years."

    That's quite the loan.

    • paleotrope 5 months ago

      Apparently they needed to refinance a 600 million loan from 2021.

      "The loan would be made through Carlyle’s credit arm and would refinance an existing $600 million debt facility provided by HPS Investment Partners in 2021, according to the report."

      What the hell have they been spending it on?

      • x3n0ph3n3 5 months ago

        Maybe some of that went towards Casa Bonita?

        • paleotrope 5 months ago

          They said ~40 million. And that seems crazy high for a theme restaurant. I think they just don't know how to manage money.

xnx 5 months ago

I'm in Central time and love Colbert, but I'd never watch it if I lived in Eastern and had to wait until 11:35 PM.

  • tim333 5 months ago

    I'm in London and watch sometimes on youtube. It's been years since I watched a program on TV at the official time you are supposed to watch it.

    • xnx 5 months ago

      Yes. It's great that they put up the monologue so quickly after it airs.

kjsingh 5 months ago

It's a long beef and Colbert was one of the talk show hosts Trump hated peculiarly :)

https://www.vox.com/culture/2017/3/17/14944994/stephen-colbe...

bitlax 5 months ago

Reality, unbiased, asserts itself.

electroglyph 5 months ago

didn't he talk shit about the Paramount deal just a couple days ago?

nteleky 5 months ago

Honest, informed satire that's often more helpful in learning about real issues than "the news"; no surprise it's being cancelled. This and John Oliver are probably the last real holdouts in honest media in the current era, from what I've seen.

iwontberude 5 months ago

I hope now that he’s done selling out, he can return to the Colbert Report

  • Dwedit 5 months ago

    Same company owns both CBS and Comedy Central.

  • plemer 5 months ago

    In what way do you think Colbert sold out?

    • iwontberude 5 months ago

      Doing a late night show for boomers instead of millennials that created him.

      • plemer 5 months ago

        Millennials don't watch TV.

        • iwontberude 5 months ago

          We used to back in the day. Comedy Central had Colbert Report and Daily Show. Redditors culminated the Rally to Restore Sanity and Reason Rally in DC where thousands of (mostly) millennials flocked to the live performances MCd by Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert.

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