Show HN: GlassFlow – OSS streaming dedup and joins from Kafka to ClickHouse

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76 points by super_ar 3 days ago


Hi HN! We are Ashish and Armend, founders of GlassFlow. We just launched our open-source streaming ETL that deduplicates and joins Kafka streams before ingesting them to ClickHouse https://github.com/glassflow/clickhouse-etl

Why we built this: Dedup with batch data is straightforward. You load the data into a temporary table. Then, find only the latest versions of the record through hashes or keys and keep them. After that, move the clean data into your main table. But have you tried this with streaming data? Users of our prev product were running real-time analytics pipelines from Kafka to ClickHouse and noticed that the analyses were wrong due to duplicates. The source systems produced duplicates as they ingested similar user data from CRMs, shop systems and click streams.

We wanted to solve this issue for them with the existing ClickHouse options, but ClickHouse ReplacingMergeTree has an uncontrollable background merging process. This means the new data is in the system, but you never know when they’ll finish the merging, and until then, your queries return incorrect results.

We looked into using FINAL but haven't been happy with the speed for real-time workloads.

We tried Flink, but there is too much overhead to manage Java Flink jobs, and a self-built solution would have put us in a position to set up and maintain state storage, possibly a very large one (number of unique keys), to keep track of whether we have already encountered a record. And if your dedupe service fails, you need to rehydrate that state before processing new records. That would have been too much maintenance for us.

We decided to solve it by building a new product and are excited to share it with you.

The key difference is that the streams are deduplicated before ingesting to ClickHouse. So, ClickHouse always has clean data and less load, eliminating the risk of wrong results. We want more people to benefit from it and decided to open-source it (Apache-2.0).

Main components:

- Streaming deduplication: You define the deduplication key and a time window (up to 7 days), and it handles the checks in real time to avoid duplicates before hitting ClickHouse. The state store is built in.

- Temporal Stream Joins: You can join two Kafka streams on the fly with a few config inputs. You set the join key, choose a time window (up to 7 days), and you're good.

- Built-in Kafka source connector: There is no need to build custom consumers or manage polling logic. Just point it at your Kafka cluster, and it auto-subscribes to the topics you define. Payloads are parsed as JSON by default, so you get structured data immediately. As underlying tech, we decided on NATS to make it lightweight and low-latency.

- ClickHouse sink: Data gets pushed into ClickHouse through a native connector optimized for performance. You can tweak batch sizes and flush intervals to match your throughput needs. It handles retries automatically, so you don't lose data on transient failures.

We'd love to hear your feedback and know if you solved it nicely with existing tools. Thanks for reading!

hodgesrm - 2 days ago

How is this better than using ReplacingMergeTree in ClickHouse?

RMT dedups automatically albeit with a potential cost at read time and extra work to design schema for performance. The latter requires knowledge of the application to do correctly. You need to ensure that keys always land in the same partition or dedup becomes incredibly expensive for large tables. These are issues to be sure but have the advantage that the behavior is relatively easy to understand.

Edit: clarity

caust1c - 2 days ago

How does the deduplication itself work? The blog didn't have many details.

I'm curious because it's no small feat to do scalable deduplication in any system. You have to worry about network latencies if your deduplication mechanism is not on localhost, the partitioning/sharding of data in the source streams, and handling failures writing to the destination successfully, all of which cripples throughput.

I helped maintain the Segmentio deduplication pipeline so I tend to be somewhat skeptical of dedupe systems that are light on details.

https://www.glassflow.dev/blog/Part-5-How-GlassFlow-will-sol...

https://segment.com/blog/exactly-once-delivery/

oulipo - 2 days ago

Seems interesting, but I'm not sure what duplication means in this context? Is Kafka sending several time the same row? and for what reasons?

Could you give practical examples where duplication happens?

My use-case is IoT with devices connecting on MQTT and sending batches of data, each time we ingest a batch we stream all corresponding rows in database, because we only ingest a batch once, I don't think there can really be duplicates, so I don't think I would be the target of your solution,

but I'm still curious at in which case such things happen, and why couldn't Kafka or Clickhouse dedup themselves using some primary key or something?

maxboone - 3 days ago

Very cool stuff, good luck!

I didn't quickly find this in the documentation, but given that you're using the NATS Kafka Bridge, would it be a lot of work to configure streaming from NATS directly?

the_arun - 3 days ago

Congratulations!!

Questions:

1. Why only to ClickHouse, can’t we make it generic for any DB? Or is it reference implementation for ClickHouse?

2. Similarly, why only from Kafka?

3. Any default load testing done?

saisrirampur - 2 days ago

Neat project! Quick question, will this work only if the entire row is a duplicate? Or even if just a set of columns (ex: primary key) conflict and you guarantee only presence of the latest version of the conflict? I’m assuming former because you are deduping before data is ingested into ClickHouse. I could be missing something, wanted to confirm.

- Sai from ClickHouse

YZF - 2 days ago

How do you avoid creating duplicate rows in ClickHouse?

- What happens when your insertion fails but some of the rows are actually still inserted?

- What happens when your de-duplication server crashes before the new offset into Kafka has been recorded but after the data was inserted into ClickHouse?

ram_rar - 2 days ago

What uses cases would this be effective compared to using replacing merge tree (RMT) in clickhouse that eventually (usually in a short period of time) can handle dups itself? We had issues with dups that we solved using RMT and query time filtering.

darkbatman - 2 days ago

Are there any load test results available, we would like to use this at zenskar but at high scale really need it to work.

System merges and final are definitely unpredictable so nice project.

brap - 2 days ago

Just wanna say I dig the design. In-house or outsourced?