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19 points by Deeg9rie9usi 8 months ago · 5 comments

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karmakaze 8 months ago

Besides this drama, why do people choose Debian-derived distros rather than Debian itself?

I'm trying to remember my own experiences. For server uses I've used Ubuntu as that's what was used at work. For personal/desktop I'd generally use Xubuntu--next I'd likely try Kubuntu. I did try using Debian proper for a while but I ran into differences in how packages were built occasionally and considered the Ubuntu one correct because it matched expectations--generally vetted by more eyeballs using and writing about it.

Maybe switching to flatpak installed packages would eliminate the differences. It still feels like Debian is the distros' distro (like a musician's musician) and not for the masses.

  • mmh0000 8 months ago

    Because Debian is very (overly, to many) committed to free software[1]

    This is great from a copyright and freedom point of view. But, if you're an end-user who just wants to get stuff done and have things work. Pure Debian gets in the way; that's not to say you can't work around it, but it is more work.

    Ubuntu, Mint, Pop!_OS, etc. take Debian, add a layer of polish and make the system much more user-friendly.

    [1] https://www.debian.org/social_contract

  • m463 8 months ago

    I think it may become more popular because recent debian policy changes made it is easier to get missing not-as-free drivers.

    I've always thought debian's main competition was ubuntu, which embraces non-free. Unfortunately it also actively scrabbles to keep a hold on your machine (try uninstalling ubuntu-advantage-tools)

  • Arnt 8 months ago

    IMHO: because Debian has too many strongly opinionated contributors whose main value isn't user satisfaction.

    Which is fine, I guess. Those who spend their evenings and weekends on software get to decide the goals and values of their project.

    (I use a Debian offshoot.)

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