Italy demands Google poison DNS under strict Piracy Shield law

arstechnica.com

176 points by DanAtC a month ago


bakugo - a month ago

> The goal is aimed at preventing illegal football streams

It's impressive how much internet censorship in Europe is currently being caused by this one group of extremely greedy people. It's one of the rare cases where the sheer size and international influence of companies like Google and Cloudflare can actually do some good for the world by fighting back against such laws.

djoldman - a month ago

> This decision follows a similar case against Internet backbone firm Cloudflare. In January, the Court of Milan found that Cloudflare's CDN, DNS server, and WARP VPN were facilitating piracy. The court threatened Cloudflare with fines of up to 10,000 euros per day if it did not begin blocking the sites.

I'm always curious about jurisdiction on this stuff.

If Cloudflare had no physical machines, employees, and property within Italy's borders, under what law could Italy levy a fine?

antirez - a month ago

Is all that folks "Why is Europe like that" from US? In that case, remember that TikTok is going to be banned because it is destroying US social networks business. On the contrary, this is an official order after the proof of copyright infringement, and targets the specific devices that are attached by people here in Italy on their TVs to stoke content (pezzotto).

It's not single people that go watch some streaming, it's a criminal organization that resells copyrighted content like footbool, F1, ... and make the customers pay (less than Sky of course). This is stealing.

perching_aix - a month ago

Am I correct in recognizing this as a new low, or is there a prior example for such a demand?

stalfosknight - a month ago

Why must the Europeans be like this? Why do they insist on fucking with a free and open internet instead of addressing the apparently unmet demand that is fueling a black market?

ur-whale - a month ago

If there is ONE thing that needs to be decentralized RTFN, it is DNS.

It's taking time, but the thugs in charge in various countries are slowly coming to realize that the easiest place to apply censorship is DNS because of its antiquated design and pervasiveness.

One: you should be able to freely choose or name-to-IP-translation provider.

Two: modern DNS should run on top of a trustless blockchain infrastructure.

Namecoin was a very nice initial attempt, it's really sad it never took off.

[EDIT]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Namecoin

xvector - a month ago

Why is Europe like this? I feel like this is what happens when you have a region that can't innovate and only knows how to regulate.

Innovators cease to be represented at the government level and the general public equates regulation with safety. The result is an increasing amount of absurd policymaking related to technology.

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Kenji - a month ago

DOH is your friend. My regime poisons DNS and enabling DOH makes things accessible again.

drpossum - a month ago

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