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27 points by edoloughlin a year ago · 37 comments

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conartist6 a year ago

Feedback: navigation within a slide deck needs to happen with `history.replaceState` not `history.pushState` so that it is possible to leave the page again after scrolling around a bit. As it is the back button forces me to back out through my entire scroll history to get to the web page I was previously on which is an anger-inducing experience I would not want to subject others to.

As mentioned if plain text is your goal it would be really nice if there were some way to serve the content as plain HTML as a backup

  • gregorywegory a year ago

    That was something I thought deeply about. I decided that an imaginary user would see a page change as a navigation event. Pressing back and having the whole thing poof could be just as anger inducing. Most SPAs use some type of router to do just that.. I imagine I won’t hear from anyone who prefers it that way so until I can afford some user testing I won’t know. Quite a bit of anxiety about that one. I had initially used replaceState…

    Yes, plain text to create it not displayed as plain text. I didn’t write the post so the title may be a little misleading. Flashy JS heavy output for minimal input is the point.

    • grog454 a year ago

      I scrolled down. Then I scrolled up. Then I scrolled down. Then I scrolled up. Then I was ready to leave so I hit the back button. Only instead of that happening, I was scrolled up, and down, and up, and down, and up, and then I could leave.

      Taken to the extreme, I think it becomes more apparent which choice is better.

  • nixpulvis a year ago

    We need to remove the entire History API from the web.

    Bring back the back button!

  • mrgoldenbrown a year ago

    Yeah, same problem here. this was annoying enough for me to close the browser and give up.

phyzome a year ago

"You need to enable JavaScript to run this app."

Very plain text! But I'm not sure what the point was.

hliyan a year ago

Skip to the demo (in case you get distracted by the colours and other aspects of the website and lose interest): https://author.quickpoint.me/demo/story

  • karmakaze a year ago

    Both the website and this demo does a terrible job of showing how good the plain text renders, to the point I have no interest in looking further.

    Perhaps they meant "...in the browser on your phone."

  • pornel a year ago

    It won't even open on mobile if the page hasn't been loaded in landscape orientation.

    This seems to be all about being flashy and JS-heavy, rather than just getting the point across.

    • gregorywegory a year ago

      There’s two sides to it, an author creating something using plain text in the authoring tool and a reader viewing the final product. So the author uses plain text to get their point across to the reader.

      When you’ve created something you can publish it and the reader can view it at a URL. The author obviously isn’t trying to get a point across to themselves in the app.

      The authoring tool is a web app and does quite a lot so it is JS heavy. It works well on mobile but the demo only works in landscape as the mobile version is slimmed down so you do have to rotate your phone.

  • gregorywegory a year ago

    Yeah. Hacker news readers should go straight to the demo…

pmontra a year ago

Black on blue/purple (what color is that?) and viceversa are probably fashionable but not the most readable combinations. For sure they are a way to force readers to put extra effort into reading so maybe it's a deliberate choice: whoever gets the point is really interested. Survivor bias.

settsu a year ago

In step 46 of the demo walkthrough, the little popup bubble says "Viola!.". The word you're looking for there is "Voilà!" (minus the extraneous period)

Seems like an interesting project and I can see the appeal to markdown aficionados (me among them, although I don't currently have much need to do presentations)!

gregorywegory a year ago

short stories look nice on mobile..

https://quickpoint.me/greg/thoughts/howtosurvivethemachineag...

  • mungoman2 a year ago

    Not knowing whether a tap shows more text or moves to the next slide makes me super anxious. Would love an indicator whether there's more text for the slide in the next tap.

    • gregorywegory a year ago

      If you press “set” on a keyboard or tap the screen with three fingers a settings screen appears that lets you switch on a position indicator.

      Sorry it’s inducing tension but that’s sort of the point. To build suspense in the story. It’s based on Robin Sloans tap book idea.

      https://www.robinsloan.com/fish/

      The whole project is an attempt to allow people to make worthwhile digital artifacts easily.

      Thanks for taking a look.

tantalor a year ago

Trying the demo. Seems broken. Type text and nothing shows up:

https://imgur.com/a/XD7KZNj

  • gregorywegory a year ago

    That’s a bug. You have to be logged out. Apologies. I’ll fix it as soon as I get time.

Kailhus a year ago

I think the main page overlay needs 100dvh rather vh unit to account for mobile devices with navigation bars

  • gregorywegory a year ago

    That was something I went back and forth on and eventually decided that there was too much negative space when the browser chrome disappeared but all the content is accessible, or should be anyway. If not please let me know. Thanks.

johnea a year ago

Yea, I think it's called writing and reading...

More lost civilization...

adamgordonbell a year ago

Love the demo!

hyperhello a year ago

Please, whatever you’re doing, hire a professional.

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