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Kaspersky releases a malware scanner for Linux systems

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28 points by craigmart · 29 comments

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Shock9889

I like the audacity to suggest "downloading" a random closed-sourced 166MB .run script that will scan my system and send data to KGB

  • Rinzler89

    But can I interest you in an OS that will send your data to NSA instead?

    • rvnx

      With Kaspersky you have the guarantee it won’t be sent to NSA since it is Russian.

      • Shock9889

        Actually you can't guarantee even that given the profitable black market for user data in Russia (it's easy to sell and buy leaked or stolen data there)

      • Comfy-Tinwork

        I like to mix and match my providers so everyone can have a good peek.

    • threeseed

      Since we are talking about Linux.

      I assume you have a link to the source code where this is happening.

      • gmuslera

        Not everything in Linux have a source code available for users. And you may want to use i.e. Chrome, or some games, or some drivers by i.e. NVidia. And that without counting BIOS or whatever deep down computers use, most of what you could use as social network/mail solution, and not found yet trojans like what happened with xz in some basic tool.

        Having the source is a good start, but having a "lawful" powerful active player that actively want to intrude should be part of the equation. It was a formidable threat a decade ago, nothing was done about that, and now is even more advanced than what was then.

Beijinger

I always thought Kaspersky is one of the better AntiVirus programs. But as an end user on Linux, do you really need one?

If I miss a Russian program, then it is the ABBYY FineReader Engine CLI for Linux

Unfortunately, it was always very expensive.

canistel

Dilemma: Whom would you trust - malware or Kaspersky?

  • lionkor

    Malware, at least that has a track record of not fucking with my day, which cannot be said about AV programs like Kaspersky.

  • randomtoast

    I would rather chose malware, because Kaspersky is malware and more for the worse.

malfist

It's good to have more antivirus options on Linux, but why should we trust Kaspersky? They've been implicated in hacking for the Russian government

planetafro

#1 Kaspersky #2 Impossible to schedule #3 Cant update, must re-download

Am I missing something or is this a pile of dark patterns to drive you to a paid product?

lost_my_passwd

What are the ways in which viruses and other types of malware can infect a Linux system?

  • gmuslera

    Downloading binaries from should-not-be-trusted sources, and executing/installing them is one way. There is some irony on having to do exactly that with this scanner. But, anyway, you may not have everything you want in your distribution, so you may have to resort to that in some cases.

    There are more subtler ways to download binaries and scripts from elsewhere, depending on what you use, like Steam games, python/js/perl/etc repositories , browser extensions, adding new distribution repositories, and so on. Everything should be safe enough and should be checked, but as the xz problem showed, that is not a fail-proof guarantee.

    • TeMPOraL

      Also ML models, which are often distributed not as data (weights), but data wrapped in Python scripts that get to run arbitrary code and download stuff from the Internet.

  • ynoxinul

    If you have a public HTTP server somewhere, you can check its access logs. You'll find a lot requests which try to exploit remote code execution vulnerabilities of some CMS or router firmware.

  • throwaway211

    TFA lists many examples.

  • lionkor

    Manually downloaded scripts from websites, which are then run as root. The website will tell you that thats how it works, and to "trust me bro".

    The target audience is the same "computer expert" who runs anything he downloads onto his Windows 7 PC as admin, because that solves a lot of issues usually™.

throwaway211

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40561915

  • alkonaut

    Is the executable updated before each run, and not merely the data (definitions/patterns) used? Because running as root, being closed source, and updating the virus definitions daily wouldn't be surprising.

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