Settings

Theme

Democracy Dies Behind Paywalls

theatlantic.com

17 points by tscherno 2 years ago · 24 comments

Reader

strict9 2 years ago

It also dies behind dark patterns that prevent you from canceling the subscription. I've subscribed to a few publications over the years but not any more.

After getting burned a few times from an easy to sign up but impossible to cancel user experience I have sworn them all off.

I refuse to support subscriptions that require talking to a person. And waiting on hold and having to navigate the operator trying to prevent you from canceling. In my experience all media and news subscriptions do this.

  • gustavus 2 years ago

    Once signed up for the WSJ. Took 10 minutes just put in my credit card and address, got a sign up discount, and boom was done.

    3 months later I needed to cancel. It turns out you can only cancel by a phone call, during their business hours on the east coast. Of course that wasn't the end because then it was probably twenty minutes on hold and fighting with. "No I want to cancel. No I don't care if you offer me a discount, I am pissed you made me call in to cancel. No I don't want to suspend I want to quit."

    Swore I would never purchase them again if they are going to do something like that.

  • daymanstep 2 years ago

    Why not just use a virtual credit card?

    • flutas 2 years ago

      They can still send you to a debt collector if you don't "properly" cancel by sending them a smoke signal at 3:42pm on a sunny day with easterly winds.

      They did it to me, luckily I was able to get it removed.

      • MrDrMcCoy 2 years ago

        Not if you never give them any real information about you. At least one virtual card operator lets you use whatever name and address you want per card.

    • whywhywhywhy 2 years ago

      Why not just read something else that doesn't require such hoops.

hunglee2 2 years ago

An interesting dilemma for media owners - the subscription model is the future of news, yet the self suppression of reach that this necessarily entails means that media owners now have far less influence over politics than they did during the ad-funded era, hence this unsatisfactory half-way house of 'its free when we want to influence your voting behaviour'

Also: democracy isn't dying just because media stops have the reach it once did. People will still vote, that is not being suppressed

  • macintux 2 years ago

    > People will still vote, that is not being suppressed

    Some would vehemently disagree with the second part of that sentence. Voter suppression is practically a plank of one of the two U.S. major parties.

    And is voting still meaningful if most people are ignorant of what's happening in the shadows?

royal__ 2 years ago

The irony here is insane

  • jlund-molfese 2 years ago

    It's already called out in the article, "(Yes, you may face this very dilemma reading this story in The Atlantic.)"

    The author doesn't have control over the paywall policy, and he probably isn't a full-time journalist. So I don't think this is as much of a "gotcha" as other comments make it out to be.

    But, interestingly enough, another author wrote a very similar, non-paywalled article at https://www.poynter.org/commentary/2022/all-news-election-ar... a few years ago! I wonder if Stengel was aware of it.

ProllyInfamous 2 years ago

I think a more-specific example of guarded democracy would be politicians whom only communicate with the public via gardened walls (e.g. Facebook, Twitter).

mitchbob 2 years ago

https://archive.ph/2024.04.15-023815/https://www.theatlantic...

sokolova46 2 years ago

How ironic that this article is behind a paywall

SamuelAdams 2 years ago

Is this supposed to be ironic? This article is literally behind a paywall…

k310 2 years ago

Yes, it's behind a paywall. mitchbob posted the archive link, and as I have noted, when factual information is paywalled, only lies, propaganda and conspiracy theories will be free to many.

A raft of subscriptions is ridiculous and dangerous. Every one increases your odds of identity theft.

And the idea is not new. "Someone" created a cool graphic a long time ago.

https://i.ibb.co/d663L0X/waoi.jpg

Keyboard Shortcuts

j
Next item
k
Previous item
o / Enter
Open selected item
?
Show this help
Esc
Close modal / clear selection