Settings

Theme

$10M says we won't see human-superior AGI by the end of 2025

garymarcus.substack.com

14 points by g-w1 2 years ago · 13 comments

Reader

esafak 2 years ago

The bar is this:

"...whatever smart intellectual labor any human working on their own, even the best human in a given domain, can do will be beaten by Al by end of 2025. That is what I am challenging."

I don't see ML models doing superhuman science in a year and half so I would take that bet. They can't even write better prose than the best humans, and language models are their strong suit.

TillE 2 years ago

Generously, Musk has never been serious about making predictions. When he says stuff like this he just means he's excited about it.

  • threeseed 2 years ago

    To be more cynical.

    He tends to do it whenever there is bad news in other parts of his business.

  • Calvin02 2 years ago

    > When he says stuff like this he just means he's excited about it.

    That's an overly charitable interpretation of what he's doing.

    The pattern that I've observed is: 1) he's a narcissist who always wants to be in the news and/or 2) he's trying to distract from something.

    He can't stand it when the press moves on from him. His MO is to wait for a week or two and then throw out something outlandish to suck up the media oxygen.

    He and Trump are very similar people.

    • kiba 2 years ago

      Having read the biography, he's a man who likes and is attracted to drama, regardless how much it burns him.

    • pennybanks 2 years ago

      ima guess most billionaires are narcissists. and this media oxygen stuff i mean it works right. to do able to get attention of the press and that many people is a only reserved for a very small amount of people on this earth.

      • Calvin02 2 years ago

        I guess one way to get data on that would be to ask people “Outside of tech and Buffet crew, how many billionaires can you name?”

      • kiba 2 years ago

        You mean the most well known billionaire are more likely to be narcissists.

jjcon 2 years ago

To be fair, I've never met a human as knowledgeable as ChatGPT before but I've simultaneously never met a human as dumb as ChatGPT before.

jrflowers 2 years ago

I too would like to get paid for having to read whatever stuff the Twitter guy posts online that somehow ends up being displayed as news

morninglight 2 years ago

There will never be a human-superior AGI until we agree on what that means.

For at least 80 years that has changed weekly and continues to do so.

.

aftbit 2 years ago

Yeah but what about by 2035? What's the saying? Something like "people overestimate how much will change in 5 years but underestimate how much will change in 10"

Keyboard Shortcuts

j
Next item
k
Previous item
o / Enter
Open selected item
?
Show this help
Esc
Close modal / clear selection