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deco.cx

98 points by lucis 2 years ago · 34 comments · 2 min read

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Hi, HN. Gui, Lucis, and the deco.cx team here — we're a bunch of Brazilians building an open-source, all-in-one web editor for the modern TypeScript dev. Check out our GitHub at https://github.com/deco-cx/deco and discover more at our site https://deco.cx/.

We built frontend tools at a hyper-growth e-commerce platform for 9 years. Deco.cx is the thing that we wish existed when we were managing hundreds of enterprise-grade React-based websites.

The gist is: JSX, HTMX, TypeScript, Tailwind and Deno. All visually editable in a beautiful, collaborative, REALTIME (!) admin UI. Great for devs, great for content.

In essence, we're a git-based TypeScript-first configuration management system. We take TypeScript code that represents your site, your entities, your UI, and we allow anyone to "save" configuration and content based on those types.

It's great for developers, because you can code directly on the web, or on your machine, and get instant feedback. You "export interface Props" and boom, an automatic form is generated. It's great for the business users, the content editors, because you just press "." (dot) in your keyboard and you go into a visual edit mode for the page you're at right now. Everything the developer exported in TypeScript is editable.

And when you hit "publish", it's already live, with a proper CDN, proper caching, everything already setup and just working. Ready to scale!

But you can't fly blind. We're democratizing pro-level tools for web analytics and observability by bundling in our Pro plan: fully-managed Plausible analytics and HyperDX observability. Check them out — these are great tools on their own, and they shine in the deco.cx platform bundle.

We don't want to be the only answer, we don't claim to be right about anything, we just want to make the friendly and accessible open-source tool that we wish existed when we were junior developers. If you want to participate, please join our discord community at https://deco.cx/discord

on open-source: our admin UI core is not ready for prime time, we're working to open-source it this year. but basically everything else, our integrations, templates and configuration management runtime are all open-source already! take a look at these: https://github.com/deco-cx/deco https://github.com/deco-cx/apps https://github.com/deco-sites/storefront Making the admin UI core extensible and open source is a MAIN OBJECTIVE for this year, so expect news here soon!

Thanks for your support!

elliotbnvl 2 years ago

> Deco.cx is the frontend platform that bridges the gap between basic no-code site builders and complex full-code setups

Is it possible to edit a site in both no-code editor and a full-code editor? Once you edit in the full-code editor, is it possible to continue editing in the no-code editor? Are changes from the full-code editor preserved in this case?

The biggest challenge I have found in integrating no-code and full-code lies in preserving changes made in full-code mode when updates are made in no-code mode.

Something something scroll hijacking.

Also, would love to be able to pause the auto-scroll banner highlighting the various features ("Section Library", "No Code Editor", "Full Code Editor", etc.)

Site looks awesome and modern, good stuff! In another life I would be very excited about this platform.

  • gadr90 2 years ago

    > Something something scroll hijacking.

    I know, right? I'm also not super proud of that portion of the landing, lol!

    > The biggest challenge I have found in integrating no-code and full-code lies in preserving changes made in full-code mode when updates are made in no-code mode.

    God, YES! We've been working in this problem in one way or another for at least 10 years, and we also failed many times in solving that conciliation. We _think_ we have reached a good tradeoff now: _everything is on git_. So when you're using our web editor, you are basically using a "remote computer" (actually a Cloudflare Durable) to edit your files, just as if you cloned it on your local machine. When you're happy with changes, you "publish" it - which generates a commit for you. This way we can have developers and content creators happy, both sharing the same history.

    > Site looks awesome and modern, good stuff! In another life I would be very excited about this platform.

    Thank you! It's been a crazy one and a half year building this and we're now a team of 30 people all over Brazil. We thank you for the recognition!

khaosdoctor 2 years ago

This is AWESOME! I’ve been looking to find something like this for my pages for ages.

The Deno core using TypeScript is the ABSOLUTE BEST mix ever. Loved the work you guys are doing. Hope you continue to disrupt even more!

  • lucisOP 2 years ago

    Thanks @haosdoctor, you get what we feel!

    deco.cx has a great sweet spot for personal pages and portfolios. Free deployment with a *.deco.site domain and an easy-to-use CMS are a great combo.

    Feel free to reach us if you need any help at https://deco.cx/discord

  • gadr90 2 years ago

    Thanks, Doctor! I was trying to use Deno in my previous company but they wouldn’t let me… so here we are :D

    I’m looking forward to open-sourcing the admin UI soon and see what insane extensions people come up with on top of our stack!

orphea 2 years ago

The page has extremely poor performance. Simply scrolling or moving the mouse cursor around loads Ryzen 7900 to 30% (it's a 12-core CPU!) Everything stutters.

  • gadr90 2 years ago

    Hi Orphea! Guilty as charged we kinda rushed this landing page for our TechCrunch announcement and haven't been able to come back to optimize it. I haven't heard of stuttering before now, but maybe something quirky is happening with your combination of browser/OS/CPU. If you could let us know which browser and OS you're on, we'd be very grateful! Thanks in advance!

    • edave64 2 years ago

      Mac mini M2 user with safari here: The website causes 10-20% CPU load doing absolutely nothing. The spotlight effect also doesn't seem to work as intended. As long as the mouse is moving, the spotlight just barely moves in its direction. Then, when the mouse stays still, it suddenly jumps towards it. It makes the website seem a lot more laggy than it probably would be.

      On chrome, the spotlight effect looks better, but we are up to 50% CPU usage.

      • gadr90 2 years ago

        This is most likely the culprit! Will take care of it. Thanks for the detailed feedback <3

    • orphea 2 years ago

      Oops, sorry, I was going to tell that! Windows 10 / Edge 123

      • gadr90 2 years ago

        Thank you! We need to start testing way more on Windows. Will do!

  • gadr90 2 years ago

    Hi Orphea! Finally had the time to debug this and turns out it was trivial! We were missing a requestAnimationFrame, d'oh! Thanks for pointing it out, solved here: https://github.com/deco-sites/starting/pull/307

p2hari 2 years ago

oh man, are you folks for real!!! I just checked out the website, git and discord channels (I just joined in) and you are awesome. Open source core and so much more work on git. Bringing partytown to deno etc. etc. I don't see what you have planned on the pipeline, but integrating with other cms out there would be even more cool. Importing content from other cms etc. Great work and wishing you all success and will be using you more in my projects :)

  • gadr90 2 years ago

    It's easy to code a loader to get data from any CMS! But we definitely intend to have proper Apps on deco.hub for every major CMS. At the end of the day, we want to satisfy your CMS needs without needing an external API. We're just getting started, would love your feedback on our discord!

  • lucisOP 2 years ago

    thanks @p2hari!

    the fact that we're open-source makes it easy to create new integrations as well. you can take a look at https://github.com/deco-cx/apps to see how it works.

    it's high priority for us to make this even easier and also to incentivize our community to create apps for most CMSes and APIs

  • rafaelgcrespo 2 years ago

    hey! deco.cx co-founder here :) super glad that you liked it. Yes, we are planning a way to import content from WordPress and other CMS - probably later this year. Right now we are focused on improving the open-source dev experience, and launching deco hub, a better way for the community to build, install and share templates and apps :)

riffic 2 years ago

I would absolutely never launch something on the dot cx TLD it just reminds me of a certain something.

gadr90 2 years ago

BTW we're launching on Product Hunt today and we'd LOVE your support!

atonse 2 years ago

I can't even scroll through this site to read what the product is.

  • gadr90 2 years ago

    Hi @atonse! Finally had the time to debug this and turns out it was trivial! We were missing a requestAnimationFrame, d'oh! Thanks for pointing it out, solved here: https://github.com/deco-sites/starting/pull/307

  • gadr90 2 years ago

    Oh, that's terrible! Can you let me know your browser/OS combination? Seems like we've found a terrible performance bug for some combination that's quite common here in HN!

    • atonse 2 years ago

      Using Safari 17.4.1 (macOS Sonoma 14.4.1).

      Good luck with figuring it out, and hopefully the launch smoothes out a bit.

_akhe 2 years ago

This looks amazing, like a modern take on Dreamweaver or something. The low code IDE may soon return! The ability to switch between no-code/code is great for teaching people to code. Dreamweaver (and MySpace profiles) basically taught me CSS.

n3storm 2 years ago

What does it mean pricing for "pageviews"? thanks in advance

  • gadr90 2 years ago

    Hi n3storm! It means we account for how many pageviews your website is serving each month and we charge a variable amount based on that. That way you only pay for what you use. In the * asterisk, we end up defining a pageview as having a maximum of 10 requests, and you pay proportionally over that. In our experience, considering our SSR-first architecture and the fact that assets are immutably cached at the border, we've found most sites use less than 10 reqs per pageview.

julienreszka 2 years ago

The homepage has terrible performance not a good first impression

  • gadr90 2 years ago

    Hi, Julie! We're aware the current LP is not showcasing our focus on performance... but time is scarce in a tiny startup and we've spent it all optimizing the frontends of our customers :) we're going to improve that soon! Thanks for pointing it out. Looking forward for more feedback!

  • gadr90 2 years ago

    Hi Julien! I finally had the time to debug this and turns out it was trivial! We were missing a requestAnimationFrame, d'oh! Thanks for pointing it out, solved here: https://github.com/deco-sites/starting/pull/307

aitchnyu 2 years ago

I assumed headless meant "api only, without ui". Feels like the Nth time I've seen this paradox.

  • lucisOP 2 years ago

    It's a popular trend with e-commerce (our main field), which usually means not using the proprietary frontend framework that e-commerce platforms offer (Shopify, Magento...)

    But deco itself it's not headless, it has all the body parts. You can use it as a headless CMS if you want to.

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