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253 points by Fluxx 14 years ago · 139 comments

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huhtenberg 14 years ago

Good idea, but, sorry, don't like 'em. Neither the execution nor the conceptualization.

The execution is too detailed. Details, regardless of how pixel-perfect they are, do blur upon quick glance, and the more details there are, the more it looks like a gray blob. The execution is also inconsistent - why the book is 3D, but the rest is flat? Except for the coffee mug that is neither.

The conceptualization is off too. The fact that they need to explain an icon is a red flag. Why book? They answer that with 5 lines of text. Why wrench and a screwdriver, when a gear is a visually simpler icon that is widely understood? Why the Logout arrow implies that someone walks in through the door? Why is the letter A transmitting, when it's actually about receiving?

So not to sound like a complete ass, here's what I would've used instead - a gear for preferences, a "power off/on" symbol for logout, a simple blank page with a plus sign for "new", some sort of inbox or even an envelope for "notifications". Just keep it simple and don't overthink.

  • kijin 14 years ago

    Completely agreed. The icons are not only excessively detailed for their small size, but also sit rather awkwardly in relation to the rounded-rectangle container. The top right corner of every Github page now looks like the notification area of an old Linux desktop with an amateur-designed theme.

    Every minor redesign Github has released over the last couple of years increasingly reek of "designed by programmers". But Github deserves better than that. Please get real designers.

    • amirmc 14 years ago

      The redundancy is a little irritating.

      I could tell what buttons did simply from the text (and they were useful) e.g 'unwatch', 'your fork' etc. Now there's more space taken up with the text and the icon.

      The icons don't seem to provide additional info in any way. Perhaps that's because Github would like to switch from text to icons eventually (with text+icons in the interim)? I hope not, as it would mean way too many things for people (esp novices) to get their heads around.

      • kijin 14 years ago

        > Perhaps that's because Github would like to switch from text to icons eventually?

        Like Gmail's new icon-only interface? I hope not! It's difficult enough for people to figure out what Gmail's icons represent.

        • regularjack 14 years ago

          You can set Gmail's Button labels to "Text" under Settings -> General.

        • steve-howard 14 years ago

          I'm still pissed that Gmail's icon redesign wastes tons of space and is only marginally better when I put it in compact mode. I'm on a 14" laptop here, not all of us are carrying around 22" monitors in our pockets!

        • Sevein 14 years ago

          Well, the differences between them are quiet significant! Gmail's icon are too horsey.

    • zachanker 14 years ago

      In addition they changed the private repo indicator so it's no longer a very obvious yellow background, but a single label that says "PRIVATE".

      It was actually useful to have a very obvious indicator that your repo was private and nobody else could see it.

    • cemregr 14 years ago

      Can you tell me what other redesigns Github has done feel undesigned? I personally think Github has a pretty great design team.

      • kijin 14 years ago

        Just off the top of my head, stacking row upon row of toolbars and metadata on top of every repository, so the first real file is actually 500px down the page. Also, excessive use of icons where text labels would be much clearer, as other commenters have said.

        There were several posts on HN over the last couple of years where people complained about these and other issues.

        • dasil003 14 years ago

          I think people on HN complain way too much about Github's design. Sure you can nitpick this stuff, but Github has always had above-average design. Your comment about design-by-programmer is not really warranted in the context of the monstrosities that the term originally applied to. If you want to hold Github to a higher standard because they have such a great product then fine, but there's no need to be so disparaging.

          Github's design is not and has never been terrible. And furthermore, hiring a "real designer" will not solve the problem because the core issue is that Github is a complex product; throwing a designer in there who doesn't understand the nuances of how git is used in the wild is not going to help. There are many different audiences and many different conflicting problems to be solved. The reason there's so much meta information stacked at the top is because the meta information is more commonly used then the file contents in most cases. I agree it's not the most intuitive, but on the other hand there's not an obviously primary role for this page and things are reasonably well organized and delineated based on purpose. I've used almost every single link there and there's not much that doesn't deserve to be front and center.

          As for the icon redesign, they are trying to establish a visual language so that the masses of information they are publishing are more readily digestible. This is not something that happens overnight, instead you have to use the icons for a while before they sink and start to pay dividends. I'm not saying Github is successful, but I think people on HN and indeed the Internet in general are way to quick to criticize redesigns based on first impressions.

        • there 14 years ago

          Also, excessive use of icons where text labels would be much clearer, as other commenters have said.

          As a non-designer, I always use text labels in my applications because I can't make good graphics/icons, but it always seems like the applications lack polish because of it. I guess there is a happy medium to be found between no icons and the strict only-ambiguous-icons like Google switched to with Android 4 and their recent web property redesigns.

    • cookiecaper 14 years ago

      Interestingly it seems that "real designers" are whomever you like the most. It seems mostly to be a matter of taste.

  • pirateking 14 years ago

    I have to upvote this unfortunately. I visited the Github site this morning for the first time in a while, and encountered the new icons. The new book, notifications, and door icons were not immediately obvious to me and I had to hover over to see what they were. I guessed what the wrench represented, but due to the uncertainty caused by the other icons, I had to double check what it was for as well. I actually didn't even realize that the icon with a "+" on it was a book.

  • SkyMarshal 14 years ago

    >So not to sound like a complete ass, here's what I would've used instead - a gear for preferences, a "power off/on" symbol for logout, a simple blank page with a plus sign for "new", some sort of inbox or even an envelope for "notifications". Just keep it simple and don't overthink

    Great point, especially about using + for new. They don't need to abstract the concept of a repository, they just need to abstract the concept of the Create/New action.

    Their users will of course know it means to create a new repository, rather than a MS Word Document, email, sandwich, or whatever, simply based on context.

    They've gotten into their heads that they need to create a new design language for version control concepts. And perhaps that's true for the Fork and Merge buttons, which are actions unique to version control, but not for everything. Create, Logoff, Notifications, etc. are not unique to version control at all. Just reuse what everyone is familiar with for those.

  • exogen 14 years ago

    It's unfortunate, because from a technical and aesthetic standpoint, these icons are mostly rock solid, and they deserve some praise for that.

    But from a human/usability standpoint (what actually matters), I agree that they are indeed a failure. Let's hope they're ready to use that technical prowess to iterate.

    • Chris_Newton 14 years ago

      But from a human/usability standpoint (what actually matters), I agree that they are indeed a failure.

      From a human/usability standpoint, most icons used in user interfaces are failures.

      Not sure you believe me? Quick! Name five icons you often use in a piece of software you use regularly: your browser, IDE, spreadsheet, graphics package, whatever.

      Now name five more.

      If you’re like most people, you probably came up with the first five easily enough. Back, refresh, stop, home, forward. Save, print, bold, cut, paste. But by the time you were getting toward ten, were you starting to struggle?

      Now consider that many of these applications line up rows of 10, 20, or even more icons, which all look rather non-descript and blurry at typical sizes anyway. Some applications have several such rows, some at different sizes, some horizontal, some vertical. That’s an awful lot of screen space for something that most users won’t use, at least not without doing the mouse-hover-tooltip-no-it’s-not-that-one-maybe-it’s-the-one-over-there thing.

      Oh, and here’s the kicker: of the icons that do get widely used, only a tiny number are truly iconic pictures that are recognisable! A lot are just an arbitrary marker in a predictable position, and it’s that context that the user recognises.

      • aGHz 14 years ago

        The strength of icons lies in recognition, not recollection, so your experiment doesn't prove anything. Essentially, I have no idea off the top of my head what the <arcane image processing tool> icon looks like in Photoshop, but put me in front of an open Photoshop and I'll recognize it in a split second.

        A lot of this has to do with placement, yes, but I'm sure even without that, you can scan a mass of icons much more easily than a mass of text.

  • kstenerud 14 years ago

    I dunno. They look fine to me. The book will take a bit of getting used to (what icon would better represent a repository anyway?). The rest just sounds like nit-picking.

  • southpolesteve 14 years ago

    The technical implementation is interesting, but from a usability perspective, I found these icons to be pretty terrible

  • jonursenbach 14 years ago

    FWIW, the icons you have problems with have always been in use on Github.

    • Pewpewarrows 14 years ago

      No, they haven't. GitHub only recently changed their top toolbar layout to include those icons, and today expanded them with even more indistinguishable-at-a-glance ones.

  • vailripper 14 years ago

    Agreed. I use 16px icons in my projects. Comparing these icons to the Glyphicons I'm using currently, the glyphicons are vastly more clear, especially at the smaller size.

  • AznHisoka 14 years ago

    I don't like em either, but they're giving me free icons I can use for my website, so I'm all good!

agwa 14 years ago

I have Firefox configured to force the same font face across all sites (I love the consistency this gives me, and also some some sites are extremely abusive in their font selection) so this doesn't work for me. The "icons" show up as unknown Unicode characters. Not cool.

This seems like the wrong approach - shouldn't characters have semantic meaning? It also doesn't seem accessible. Screen readers wouldn't know what to do with these invented characters. <img> tags at least have the alt attribute.

  • agwa 14 years ago

    I've given it some thought and GitHub should be able to make this more accessible by doing something like this:

        <span class="mini-icon notifications"><span>Notifications</span></span>
    
    Using media queries, serve CSS like this only to screen-like media (i.e. not screen readers):

        .mini-icon.create:before {
           content: "\f030";
        }
        .mini-icon span {
           display: none;
        }
    
    Hopefully they'll adopt something like this, though it wouldn't help people like me who just want a consistent font across the Web.
    • notJim 14 years ago

      I think screen readers actually respect display:none. I believe the preferred solution is to use a large, negative text-indent.

  • brcrth 14 years ago

    So you force a behavior through your browser but when it doesn't work you blame the site? Ok...

    • lloeki 14 years ago

      Unicode code points do have names and standardized meanings, so it's not a good idea to abuse them.

      Hopefully the 'create' one uses f003, which apparently lies in PRIVATE_USE_AREA [0]

          .mini-icon.create::before {
             content: "\f003";
          }
      
      [0] http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/f003/index.htm
    • ori_b 14 years ago

      The alternative is having sites select fonts that hurt my eyes. I want a consistent experience across the web.

      • huhtenberg 14 years ago

        That's like wanting all cars on the road to be red :)

        • ori_b 14 years ago

          No. It's like expecting that when I adjust my seat to fit my leg length, the doors still work. I like the text to be readable without me leaning in and destroying my vision.

          The fact that I'm forced to override font sizes for usability because sites don't respect my default settings is bad enough. When they break because of it, it becomes terrible design.

          • Nitramp 14 years ago

            +1 on the font size - that's a big problem in particular if you happen to have a large screen.

            But forcing everything into the same font seems a bit excessive; I've actually seen a couple of sites make really nice use of fonts, and you can still install an extension that turns your page into an "easy reading" mode on a key press.

            What do you do about fixed width vs proportional fonts?

            • thristian 14 years ago

              I'm not the original poster, but I also force my browser to render in a particular font (specifically, same font used in the rest of my desktop applications).

              In my experience, I'd say about 0.5% of pages are fancy demos of things you can do with web-font support, 1% of pages use custom web-fonts but look just fine without them, and 0.1% of pages are like GitHub where they actually require a custom font. Everything else uses some "web safe" font, and often very little care is given to selecting which one. Forcing everything into the same font is an excellent solution for the 98.4% of sites that don't use custom fonts, and an decent solution for 99.4% of sites.

              It should be noted that most of the "easy reading mode" extensions only work well for article-type pages, not for sites like Hacker News or Reddit.

            • philh 14 years ago

              > forcing everything into the same font seems a bit excessive;

              Worst case seems to be that you go to a site and it's not quite as pretty as it might be, but still perfectly readable. I'd take that in exchange for not having to press a button to make a site more readable.

              Can you give examples of the sites you're thinking of?

              edit - that should be "worst case provided sites aren't using fonts to display nonstandard icons".

            • ori_b 14 years ago

              All browsers I've seen that allow you to override settings allow you to do it by family (sans, serif, fixed, etc)

          • ianstormtaylor 14 years ago

            Sorry but seeing as Chrome remembers which sites you zoomed in on every time you go back to them, font-size isn't a good argument for completely changing the font on websites.

            You have to click Cmd-+ once in a while to zoom in on pages that are made by idiots.

          • Karn 14 years ago

            I agree wholeheartedly. I have a solution that I've been using for years - a stylesheet that overrides everything. I just got tired of having to adjust to different fonts and color schemes for each website. After years of using computers for 8+ hours a day I have settled on the perfect (for me) combination of color, contrast, font styles and sizes, button styles, link styles, etc., and that's what I want to see. If that's not enough I have a Scriptish script that formats any page to my specification with a keypress.

            I actually think this is the future of browsing (at least for people who do a lot of reading in-browser). Books that used non-standard fonts and colors would be laughed at (say, Papyrus on a beige background for body text), but just because it's easy to go wild with websites doesn't mean people should do it.

        • latortuga 14 years ago

          It's more like expecting all cars to be narrow enough to fit in lanes or expecting all cars to have turn signals and brake lights. Type face has a huge impact on how readable text is, car color has almost zero impact on my ability to drive.

    • fusiongyro 14 years ago

      Fonts are not behavior. When the web was made of pages and style was secondary to content, this wasn't a problem.

    • smackfu 14 years ago

      The site uses a font choice to change how the site works, which is pretty much conflicting with the entire concept of a style sheet.

    • vsl 14 years ago

      Err, yes, I do blame the site for abusing HTML. If they misuse text markup to represent what is semantically an image, how is that my fault? HTML has <img> for a reason. There's perfectly suitable markup for text and another for images: using the former for the latter is no less idiotic than doing it the other way around.

      This fad is supremely annoying.

    • gdubs 14 years ago

      So if, say, an older user forces all text to be large and it renders a site unreadable, you would blame the user?

      • eps 14 years ago

        Why would an older user want to enlarge text only, and not the images and other page elements? He wouldn't. He would be using either Ctrl-+ in the browser or an OS-level zoom.

        • vsl 14 years ago

          The first thing I enable in Safari is View->Zoom Text Only. Just because you prefer whole-page zoom doesn't mean the rest of us does too. I use zooming only when a page has unreadably small text size, in which case I enlarge it to be readable and do not want to scale up and uglify images that are usually perfectly fine in their original size.

  • untog 14 years ago

    <img> tags at least have the alt attribute.

    And <a> tags have the title attribute.

    • agwa 14 years ago

      <img> has the title attribute too, but title is meant for displaying additional information via a tooltip. alt is for alternative text to be used in place of the image.

      Does any screen reader actually read the value of a title attribute on a link containing text? I doubt it. Instead it would descend into the <a> tag and try to read the text therein.

      • Nitramp 14 years ago

        Actually the title attribute is used to annoy users who have their mouse cursor on the page by displaying exactly the same text again that's already in the link or para.

        At least in 90% of the cases I've seen it used, probably by some overzealous OCD person wanting to fill in _all_ the attributes.

  • secoif 14 years ago

    If CSS and browsers weren't so broken and there was a convenient, semantic alternative, I'm sure github would have used that instead. Unfortunately icon fonts are one of the most convenient and compatible 'hacks' to render vector icons in the current climate.

    In a perfect world you'd be right, or perhaps even in a world where IE hadn't held the entire Internet back 10 years.

pooriaazimi 14 years ago

What GitHub needs is a 'like' button, not new icons (so we don't have to `watch` projects we find interesting and want to somehow remember just in case - which results in thousands of commits and pushes (every hour) in our news feed we absolutely don't care about).

  • reledi 14 years ago

    Agreed. The signal to noise ratio in my newsfeed is very low because of it. There exists some workarounds (e.g. https://www.codeshelver.com) but I'd like to see GitHub fix the problem.

    • pooriaazimi 14 years ago

      I didn't know about CodeShelver! Thank you.

      I'll give it a try in a few days, but just a question: what happens if www.codeshelver.com dies tomorrow (assuming they save shelved repos on their server) or their Safari extension be buggy and it removes/corrupts all my precious repos (assuming it's the extension that saves the repos)? Will I lose everything?

      • reledi 14 years ago

        I can't answer your question because I don't know about the inner workings of CodeShelver, but it's safest to assume you would lose everything (going off the assumption that they store the info on their own servers).

        You should also check out Gitmarks. Someone posted the link in a reply to my earlier comment.

    • nyrb 14 years ago

      Codeshelver looks nice. I have been using Gitmarks for a while and its amazing.

      https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/dbjampjhnhcfjgcapn...

  • memset 14 years ago

    Agreed. A nice "bookmark" feature. I think a book would be a great affordance for bookmark but that seems to be taken already by "new repository"

  • igorgue 14 years ago

    [workaround] Use gitmarks: http://farmckon.github.com/gitmarks_2/

  • spullara 14 years ago

    Amusingly, it is the same behavior as the Facebook like button, except that Github's feed algorithm doesn't filter out things you likely don't care about.

  • nuclear_eclipse 14 years ago

    I'd like to see something similar to Ohloh's "Uses This" feature.

Sephr 14 years ago

Why isn't this SVG? Font icons are only applicable when there is actually an appropriate corresponding Unicode character for the icon, as text is supposed to be selectable/copyable, and display fine (albeit in a different typeface) if I turn off web fonts and have full Unicode coverage. Some of the icons that Github implements are in Unicode, yet they don't even use the characters for those.

For an example of when it's appropriate to use a custom font for an icon, I use a custom font for U+1F50D Left-Pointing Magnifying Glass in the search button on my website. Github uses U+F22E [INVALID] instead for their search icon.

pak 14 years ago

I appreciate that these will scale better than images, but I never grokked the icons in the top right corner. To me, a repository isn't much like a "book", and I still remember hunting for the "log out" link in frustration before realizing it was the door with an arrow. Since you've pretty much pegged the header at ~900px wide, I still think text links would be more usable and you have the horizontal room for it.

That being said, since it seems like you're incorporating these metaphors into other parts of the site--like I notice the book icon by the repo name now--maybe the metaphors will eventually stick. But in the meanwhile it has been a little confusing.

kjhughes 14 years ago

Some of the icons on our site have been the same since we launched 4 years ago.

Hmm. Icons aren't like underwear in needing to be changed regularly.

Further, I'm not immediately able to interpret many of the visuals. E.g. With some hovering effort, I see that right arrow away from a book supposed to stand for "Log Out" and, oh, it's an open door, not an open book. Not sure if these were meant to be shared (license?) but those so interested should be sure to checkout Font Awesome too.

I do love GitHub. New icons? Meh.

  • loeschg 14 years ago

    Haha, that's along the lines of what I was thinking. Meh. I sometimes wonder if Github could post something about feeding their company pet and make it to the top of HN. :)

xbryanx 14 years ago

The file view icons seem way too washed out. I'd like more visual contrast so that I can see what is a folder and what is a file. Not all of us have 20 something eyeballs duders.

  • pak 14 years ago

    Agreed, color is the most immediately recognizable thing about an object and this is just as bad as when Lion washed out the folder colors. It looks more minimalist/modern but is less usable. Even low-saturation colors would be nice. You could do this with font icons just by printing them in slightly different colors (like a terminal, sigh).

    Edit: I could be nuts, but they are printing in slightly different colors now, whereas just an hour ago they were all gray. Somebody at github just made my day.

  • xbryanx 14 years ago

    Interesting...the folders and files are now different colors for me. Different than when I first left this comment. Still not high enough contrast IMO, but a step in the right direction.

  • onetwothreefour 14 years ago

    Bring back the yellow folder icons!

    Also, the entire design has terrible contrast. It's just dark on dark on dark. And every color has been stripped out.

    Ugh.

  • dedene 14 years ago

    I agree also. Just too little contrast and color... I like the icons on buttons etc, but not for the file browser or the activity feed icons.

  • jerf 14 years ago

    Font icons. I really don't see the appeal. They seem guaranteed to get this comment, no matter how good at icons you are.

why-el 14 years ago

I personally did not like the colors on the repository icons. Grey just doesnt strike me as a color that inspires liveliness and energy. I liked the yellow better. Please keep some color around the repo list, thats what I care about most and I think a lot of people do too.

bane 14 years ago

This speaks to an overall bigger problem with browsers, the need for a universal vector graphics format. The fact that designers are resorting to fonts to try and get resizable art assets is not a good thing IMHO.

radley 14 years ago

The problem is that they didn't follow convention: they didn't think through the icons' purpose & over-did the design. Create New should just be + sign, Account Settings should be user head, and so on.

I like thinking up icons just like any advanced UI/UX guy, but rule number #1: if there's a standard you use it. Even if that means using something as archaic as floppy disk for Save.

swanson 14 years ago

Is there a license on these? I poked around for a few minutes but couldn't find anything. Seems like a generally useful icon set for any web-apps related to software or developers.

jvc26 14 years ago

Guess its a weird question but does anyone know what the make of propelling pencil is in the photo of their drafting process? I'd be keen to lay my hands on one!

fleeno 14 years ago

Did they make that drawing just for the blog post?

I don't know things work at GitHub, but our ideas are scrawled on random papers, whiteboards, and windows. We also never seem to have a perfectly posed pencil anywhere in sight.

Either way, I still love GitHub!

brutuscat 14 years ago

Is it me or they "changed" the icons 2-3 times in last 6 months? I don't want to disrespect you guys, you are doing a great job :D, but github currently really needs some form of deck to track down project dependencies activity and people activity too. I already started something here http://bit.ly/GFB0XD

pnathan 14 years ago

Going against the grain, I guess. I like them, more or less. I particularly like the color-coding in the newsfeed.

However, I generally favor text options: if there was a no-icon option I'd probably choose that over icons.

My nits:

Advanced search looks like a settings icon, though.

Admin-tools doesn't seem to relate. (A 60s rocket ship? huh?)

Notification looks like an A with some sound at small resolution instead of the radio tower.

irrationalfab 14 years ago

It looks like a regression (it is the first time that I say it with a redesign). From the technical point the might be great, but they are more bold and result in a pages that look less clean.

However I don't care about the icons so much, what I want is:

- better notifications / activity stream

- like button

- improved diff (highlight only the changes inline if a line changed slightly)

coleifer 14 years ago

Judging by the number of folks listed who contributed to this (misguided) effort, I'd call this classic design by committee. Why not stick with the visual tropes we've come to know and instantly recognize? Instead of spending so much time designing these icons they should've read up on semiotics.

FuzzyDunlop 14 years ago

I think this quote sums up some of the thinking behind this:

"Some would say that a repository is storage — a place where you store your code — somewhat like a box."

So why isn't the icon a box? Why instead spend the rest of the paragraph justifying the book icon? It might be understood well enough by the Github designers, but the metaphor isn't universal enough to be recognisable at a glance.

This is made worse because the icon for 'readme' and 'wiki' are also books. That could be confusing without the text.

The other example is the icons for watching. 'Add' tends to be represented as a plus icon. In this case 'watching' has a plus icon in it, while 'unwatch' has a cross icon. This doesn't appear to make sense.

One might wonder why, when there are present and available dichotomies (open eye, shut eye), there's such a mix and match of metaphors.

ngokevin 14 years ago

Elements aren't lining up and running into each other. Some icons are oversized and overall the page looks lot more cluttered. Adding even more colors doesn't help the fact.

There's always going to be pushback when doing a UI revamp, and today I'll be that guy. Running Linux/Nightly.

shocks 14 years ago

We should tell them we don't like it instead of just commenting in a HN thread.

Tweet them, or something.

Bitbucket looks great still.

  • kylemaxwell 14 years ago

    I'm not a fan of Bitbucket for various reasons, but your point is well-taken - I tweeted them just now myself:

    >generally like the octicons, except (a) some are too detailed, and (b) the colored bkgrds are confusing. (still a fan!)

    Then again, I'm pretty sure GitHubbers will be watching this thread. ;)

    • shocks 14 years ago

      My comment on their "Making of" blog post expressing my criticisms was deleted without reply, how friendly!

mdehaan 14 years ago

I believe you used to be able to click on the "forks" and "watchers" button to see who is forked or watching. Now the button defaults to "unwatch" when looking at the project page.

I find these new icons confusing as well. It took me a long time to figure out the one icon was an eye with a "X" on it for "unwatch". Not sure why the branches in "your fork" travel upwards as well, as I've never seen a source control diagram do that.

And my default user/organization/project icon is no longer an octocat but a book with a fork on it. I miss the octocat.

I think this is a classic problem when a graphic designer doesn't have enough meaningful real work to do :)

guywithabike 14 years ago

For the record: it took 8 people to design and implement their new icons. 8 people.

  • brendn 14 years ago

    Are you seriously bashing their icons based on the number of people on the team? How can you pass any kind of judgement without knowing what went in to planning, designing, testing, and deploying the change? If you think you could do something similar with fewer resources, either go do it and show us, or stop raining on someone else's parade.

  • MartinCron 14 years ago

    Or, they had 8 people collaborating on the design and implementation of something important. Do you dare to claim that all 8 of these people did nothing else?

  • sunir 14 years ago

    Careful. I count 5. Some people did more than one thing.

Bogdanp 14 years ago

Aside from all the issues that were pointed out by everyone, since fonts on Windows are rendered much more sharply than they are on OS X for example, these look absolutely _terrible_ on Windows machines.

Edit: I have also noticed that they have removed the button to see the watchers on a project (it's just a toggle button now). To see that list now you either have to enter the URL directly or go on your dashboard and click on the watchers icon there on whatever project you're looking for.

jackfoxy 14 years ago

Reminds me of the VS11 beta icons, although not quite as bad that. (The promised VS11 RC icons are somewhat of an improvement. There must have been a big outcry. http://blogs.msdn.com/b/visualstudio/archive/2012/05/08/visu...)

I agree the idea is very good. Are flat icons a current design fad?

evoxed 14 years ago

Offtopic, but it's amazing to realize that Avalonstar is 11 years old! I guess I was pretty small when it started but I remember following Brian's work I guess as far back as my first computer purchase...

madmaze 14 years ago

With the new design I have issue reading the light gray text on the white background. It looks like the line weight is set too thin.. at least this is on Chrome & FF11 on Ubuntu 11.10

andypants 14 years ago

Did the watchers and forks buttons also change?

They just to just be an icon and a number, now I see an icon/text button. Also, I can't see a list of watchers/forks by clicking on them now.

zobzu 14 years ago

To be perfectly honest the icons confused me. I only found "new repo" because tere aren't many bbuttons so it's quick to go over each. I much prefer text.

yuanyan 14 years ago

Octicons for Twitter Bootstrap: http://madscript.com/Octicons

kaezarrex 14 years ago

I prefer no icons... https://gist.github.com/2648857

angerman 14 years ago

Is it just me or does the new exit icon with the door not align well with the other icons?

  • scottbruin 14 years ago

    Perhaps because it's clearer than the rest? But yah the weights are off and it seems sharper.

edwardhotchkiss 14 years ago

Has anyone seen this in FF 12? This is one branch that shouldn't have been merged.

DannoHung 14 years ago

Uh... did github just axe blog comments from all non-drinkup posts?

  • rsanheim 14 years ago

    We disabled comments from new feature posts.

    • DannoHung 14 years ago

      But you deleted all of the old comments too. That stinks, there was good stuff in a bunch of those comment threads.

Alex3917 14 years ago

I was hoping this was going to be about a new elementary particle.

wickedchicken 14 years ago

Apple and Windows, doesn't seem to be a Linux :/

ryanflorence 14 years ago

You guys are worse than your own customers.

Site looks great.

mparlane 14 years ago

And goodbye to IE8 it seems.

jonah 14 years ago

seems to be a typo, there's: .tag-create and .tab-delete

platzhirsch 14 years ago

I cannot believe my repositories have no smiles anymore, I don't want to live on this planet anymore.

finalword 14 years ago

hello, octicons.

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