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90 points by hpb42 2 years ago · 72 comments

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lacker 2 years ago

I used to really love the Hugo and Nebula awards but over time they seem to be shifting away from the harder science fiction that I like the best, more in the fantasy direction. I miss the days of Hugo winners like Neuromancer, A Fire Upon the Deep, Green Mars, The Diamond Age, The Windup Girl, The Three-Body Problem.

That might be just tracking what gets written nowadays rather than the opinions of the people giving out the awards, though. And I did really like Babel (which won the Nebula this year although I guess was not a finalist for the Hugo) and N K Jemisin's work (three Hugos in the past decade).

  • dbsights 2 years ago

    Agreed. When I was a kid, I would look for the award winners as a shortcut to find new books to read, but lately its been disappointment after disappointment. I don't feel like the winners reflect what I consider quality (e.g. I loved A Deepness in the Sky, Cryptonomicon, in addition to the books you've listed (minus Three Body Problem)).

    With the death of physical stores, I no longer have a way of discovering new science fiction. I wish there was an award or recommendation engine that could find these gems among all of the trash.

    Interestingly, I did find one book that was quite enjoyable, from a John Carmack tweet of all places, The Powers of the Earth.

  • senectus1 2 years ago

    It didn't win a hugo, but Project Hail Mary was excellent.

lscdlscd 2 years ago

The Children of Time series is fantastic! I'm glad that Adrian Tchaikovsky is getting more well deserved recognition.

  • jmartrican 2 years ago

    OMG I didn't know there were two more books in the series. Audible is doing a bad job at recommending books. It does not recommend the next books in series I follow.

  • cantaloupe 2 years ago

    I haven’t read The Children of Time, but I would highly recommend Tchaikovsky’s Final Architecture trilogy. It’s been my favorite series I’ve read in a few years.

  • asplake 2 years ago

    I enjoyed it too, but I enjoyed the Rivers of London series even more. Great audiobooks both

A_D_E_P_T 2 years ago

The Hugo Awards have really come to represent the views and tastes of a narrow clique. I don't know to what extent this was always the case -- my impression of the Awards in the 90s and 00s was that they strived for more objectivity -- but it's quite flagrant right now. And it's unfortunate, as they go HARD for very soft science fiction which reads a lot more like fantasy...

  • alephxyz 2 years ago

    Voting is open to all attendees of the World Scifi Convention and they usually get thousands of votes now. It's possible that you find the winners too "mainstream" but accusing them of being cliquey doesn't make sense.

    • A_D_E_P_T 2 years ago

      WorldCon is not representative of all readership. Its website even notes: "The Hugo voters are good at finding and nominating good works, and do talk among themselves, so word spreads." [1] They seem to do an awful lot of talking among themselves, I'll give them that.

      Besides, it doesn't take a whole lot of nominations to get something onto the ballot. An energetic and motivated clique can capture the whole thing.

      And surely it's apparent that they reward a certain type of work, and disregard others. For e.g., Analog Magazine -- which specializes in hard science fiction -- didn't pick up a single short story or novella nomination.

      [1] - https://www.thehugoawards.org/submitting-your-work/

      • TheCoelacanth 2 years ago

        Traditional print magazines like Analog are at a huge disadvantage in popularity contest awards like the Hugos because they are only available to subscribers.

        Hugo winners usually come from magazines that make their stories available for free online.

      • amanaplanacanal 2 years ago

        A motivated clique attempted a takeover in the mid 2010s and the nominating rules were changed so it couldn’t happen again.

  • lacker 2 years ago

    I'm curious, is there some novel that you think was underlooked at this year's Hugo awards, like if you were running the show you would have given them the award? I feel like my tastes probably agree with yours but I am not sure if the problem is the Hugo voters or if there are just very few great books of the sort I most prefer the past few years.

    • A_D_E_P_T 2 years ago

      2022 books? Sure.

      "The Mountain in the Sea" by Ray Nayler.

      "Beyond the Burn Line" by Paul MacAuley.

      "Eversion" by Alastair Reynolds.

      "The Thousand Earths" by Stephen Baxter. (Who, surprisingly, has never won a Hugo. This fact alone reflects very poorly on the Hugos.)

      "How High We Go in the Dark" by Sequoia Nagamatsu.

      I feel that all of these books were better than any of the nominated ones.

      I like Ken MacLeod's Lightspeed Trilogy (thus far) too, but only one of them was published in 2022 and the series is still incomplete...

      • lacker 2 years ago

        Ah, interesting - I did like The Mountain in the Sea, I forgot about that one. Eversion was decent too. I am going to get Beyond the Burn Line as a result of this comment's recommendation. So thanks!

        • A_D_E_P_T 2 years ago

          McAuley's recent output (Austral, War of the Maps, Beyond the Burn Line,) has been very good -- and I'd say that those three books are all equal in terms of literary and entertainment quality.

          All of them are, in a sense, the same type of story -- Person Goes on Journey Through Strange Territory -- but that's a solid foundation for a science fiction novel, and McAuley does it well, with more than enough variation to keep things interesting. Austral has near-future climate fiction and crime fiction elements; War of the Maps takes place on a Dyson Sphere around a white dwarf star in an aged and dying universe; Beyond the Burn Line is a middle-distance cautionary tale about AI and, in a sense, religion...

          McAuley has a novella in this month's Asimov which is also quite similar, and also very good. "Blade and Bone" is about the sole survivors of an annihilated infantry battalion as they make their way across a hostile Mars -- which has been terraformed but is reverting to a cold and dry baseline.

          This kind of engaging hard SF is, emphatically, not appreciated by the people who vote on Hugo awards. So much the worse for them, I think...

progne 2 years ago

The Scholomance series by Naomi Novak is quite good, her best and I've liked all her books. Yes it's a Potter derivative, but doesn't feel derivative but inventive and de-disneyfied.

  • brookst 2 years ago

    I loved her previous books but just couldn’t do Scholomance. I don’t mind the Harry Potter derivation, but she tripled down in the life is so unfair vibe that annoyed me in Potter. Still, glad to see her recognized, Spun Silver and Uprooted are amazing books.

    • dimmke 2 years ago

      I thought the magic system and world building of that series was so great, but it was so stymied by YA bullshit. The cliffhanger at the end of the first book had my eyes rolling out of my head.

      I love the Hugo awards, I am almost never disappointed by their best novel nominees and winners. I went on a spree earlier this year and was amazed by some of the books I read, like The Goblin Emporer, A Memory of Empire and its sequel. Going to enjoy checking some of these books out.

    • progne 2 years ago

      Novik doesn't just copy the teen-angst-life-is-so-unfair vibe, but efficiently includes it in her world building. She justifies it. By the end of the series it's clear that the her universe is indeed impressively unfair ... which is core to her protagonists' motivation to do something about it and drives the plot.

      • brookst 2 years ago

        Agreed, but from my perspective as very very far removed from adolescence, I had to give up because I found it whiny and predictable. As a teenager I probably would have related more. God knows I was whiny and predictable enough.

        • dkarl 2 years ago

          Even as a teenager, I knew that "it turns out all your emotional angst is vindicated by objective reality!" was a bullshit fantasy, but even knowing that, I needed it to sometimes be the answer. The older I get, the more I'm able to revisit that stuff without cringing and appreciate that it was just an emotional outlet.

    • mcphage 2 years ago

      > life is so unfair vibe that annoyed me in Potter

      In Potter's defense, the world really was out to get him.

  • dcminter 2 years ago

    I too enjoyed this a lot and my wife did too. It's YA material, but well written and well plotted both internally and across the three volume arc. Her protagonist is given an amusing voice so it's not too heavy despite the mayhem.

    Obviously you have to be open to the fantasy setting, and I'd describe it more as a bit of a reaction to the cosiness of Potter than a mere derivative.

  • krzyk 2 years ago

    Oh, thanks, I didn't notice here (scanned just the titles and winners).

    I liked her previous two non-series books (Uprooted and Spinning Silver).

dcminter 2 years ago

"Terry Pratchett: A Life With Footnotes" by Rob Wilkins really is excellent. If you enjoyed Pratchett's novels and are interested in his life then you will get a lot out of it. It's much better written than I expected of an authorized biography; not a hagiography at all, it showed his feet of clay as well as his halo. Some of it, of course, is very amusing.

Be warned, however, that it covers Terry's deterioration with alzheimers' without pulling its punches much. There were a couple of points where I had to put the book down for a bit and take a break because it was too sad.

pseudo0 2 years ago

She-Hulk received a nomination, clear evidence that the Hugo Awards are now an anti-signal.

  • TheCoelacanth 2 years ago

    Best Dramatic Presentation categories are borderline meaningless. Hugos are literary awards, not TV or film awards. Voters don't take those categories seriously.

    2023 voting details aren't available yet, but for 2022 it only took 26 nominations out of 1368 nominating ballots to make it onto the final ballot for that category.

TheAceOfHearts 2 years ago

Barely recognize any of the books or authors there, especially the winners.

I've listened to Travis Baldree narrate Cradle, so I'm probably gonna check out his Legends & Lattes book.

It didn't win, but I read The Scholomance which is listed in the series section. If you're interested in unconventional magic systems then I'd recommend it.

Nettle & Bone was the big winner. Reading the blurb doesn't immediately call out to me. Worth checking out?

  • wiredfool 2 years ago

    T Kingfisher/Ursula Vernon is very good, in a weird fantasy/horror/romance/reimagined fairy tale way. (Depending on the book. One of the romances features severed heads.)

    I haven’t read this one, but I’ve read basically all her other stuff apart from the horror, which I’ve noped out from. I’m not sure if this one is more reimagined fairy tale or horror, which is how I made it past release week without reading it.

  • gertrunde 2 years ago

    I've not read "Nettle & Bone" yet - but have read some of T Kingfishers other work, can be quite big on the 'unconventional magic systems' as well (e.g. "A Wizard's Guide To Defensive Baking").

  • selykg 2 years ago

    Legends & Latte's is one of my favorite books of the past year. It falls into that Cozy Fantasy genre.

    It's very different than the Monk & Robot series but makes me feel a very similar way to those books. Highly recommend. There's a sequel coming out in November called Bookshops & Bonedust. I think it's technically a prequel.

    Travis Baldree did amazing with Cradle as well. Going to miss getting new books in that series.

slothtrop 2 years ago

Is it typical of Hugo Awards for fantasy to be so strongly represented, vs sci-fi?

gertrunde 2 years ago

Nice to see Nnedi Okorafor get an award, while I've not read the book that won the award, I've enjoyed other books they've written.

  • KingMob 2 years ago

    Okorafor hates the Harry Potter comparison, but I'll say it: The Akata series is like if HP had 10x wilder magic, was 100x better written, and was set in Nigeria.

  • NelsonMinar 2 years ago

    I loved the first two books in the Nsibidi series, Akata Witch and Akata Warrior. I didn't even know this third book was out! Looking forward to reading it.

jmartrican 2 years ago

I didn't know the Hugo Awards has so many award. I naively though it was just best sci-fi book because I would see lists of Hugo award winners by year and see only one book per year and they were all sci-fi.

jnsaff2 2 years ago

I don't get the hype about Everything Everywhere All at Once .. quite a letdown. Nowhere close to Rick and Morty it had been compared to.

Severance however was pretty good.

Children of time - amazing.

asicsp 2 years ago

Good to see Travis Baldree winning Astounding Award for Best New Writer. Legends & Lattes was one of my favorites reads last year - looking forward to the prequel next month.

tromp 2 years ago

"The hugo award" sounds eerily similar to the Dutch town of "Heerhugowaard" where I grew up...

mi_lk 2 years ago

Little surprised that such a renowned sci-fi award is hosted on a plain WordPress site. A welcome surprise.

  • Maken 2 years ago

    The site is quite good actually, with lots of information and a extensive archive.

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