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Study finds influence of smaller jersey numbers on perception

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68 points by jsm386 2 years ago · 39 comments

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andtheboat 2 years ago

...in american football.

Context and history matter as this is the complete opposite for soccer:

- Smaller numbers go to the defenders and big guys

- Larger numbers are given to younger & academy player

- Numbers like 7, 9, 10, 8 & 6 all have a specific meaning on the pitch

So yeah, numbers matter, but so does everything else.

  • solids 2 years ago

    Having grown up in Argentina, it always annoyed me seeing players in any sport with numbers that don’t resemble certain position or role.

    • slg 2 years ago

      That is basically all this study is showing. The NFL (American football) used to subscribe to this and had strict rules over what numbers people could wear. 1-19 were reserved for the smallest players (quarterbacks, punters, and kickers). That was loosened roughly 25 years ago to allow slightly bigger players (wide receivers). They loosened it even more drastically within the last few years to allow most players to wear 0-19. It therefore isn't a surprise that people who see small numbers have a bias to think that player is smaller as that has been historically true. It would be interesting to repeat this study among younger generations of Americans and then international people who have no knowledge of the NFL. I would expect the first group would have a weaker effect and it might disappear entirely for the second group.

      • anemoiac 2 years ago

        *Number ranges used to be used to indicate a player position, not their size... The average quarterback is significantly larger than the average cornerback, for example, and punters or kickers have no typical size (body size/shape doesn't factor into kicking ability).

  • dylan604 2 years ago

    of course there's been exceptions as well. Jamie Carragher's #23 for example.

    "Number 1 is Carragher. Number 2 is Carragher. Number 3 is Carragher.

    We all dream of a team of Carraghers!"

    couldn't resist

  • nostromo 2 years ago

    Same with rugby. 1 and 3 are the largest / heaviest players on the field.

    • FredPret 2 years ago

      4 & 5 might be even heavier in some teams. But the 1-8 (forwards) will outweigh 9-15 (backs) by a lot.

    • mrmincent 2 years ago

      Also smartest, most brave, and the best dancers etc.

  • lukas099 2 years ago

    I think it would be interesting to study the effect in sports that have no restrictions on who gets what number. Like (I think) basketball.

  • zimpenfish 2 years ago

    Don't forget that 1 is normally the goalkeeper.

RandallBrown 2 years ago

https://operations.nfl.com/the-rules/rules-changes/nfl-jerse...

Linemen are required to wear higher numbers so it's no surprise that people automatically associate higher numbers with bigger people.

  • singleshot_ 2 years ago

    When I showed up for double sessions freshman year, I found that the sizes of the shirts corresponded to the numbers. Even without rules about what number an interior lineman must wear, the big body positions just aren’t going to physically fit in jersey number three.

  • the_snooze 2 years ago

    I've always associated single-digit numbers to "skill positions," especially speedsters like WRs, RBs, and CBs. If you're in the 50s and above, I'll assume you're one of the "big uglies" duking it out in the trenches.

    • jghn 2 years ago

      At least in the NFL WRs and TEs have traditionally been in the 80s. The shift towards the teens and lower started in the mid-aughts.

      • kaesar14 2 years ago

        Specifically a rule change that allowed this - too many teams had 80 numbers retired.

    • dpeck 2 years ago

      A lot of LBs in the 40s and 50s. I’d qualify those more as medium sized (but meaner) uglies :)

  • kleinsch 2 years ago

    Read the article

    > When we looked at the relationship between the ratings of size and slenderness and the numbers, [and] we did a very small range, like from 17 to 19, we see a very robust correlation."

AndrewKemendo 2 years ago

I love this so much

It’s such a great proof at how absolutely fundamentally tragically terrible humans are at evaluating things consistently based on purely sense perception.

  • goatlover 2 years ago

    It's not a proof. It's one study. Which does back up your point in a way, given how often we tend to treat a single study as truth when it makes news.

  • schneems 2 years ago

    It reinforces my priors that human knowledge is Bayesian (we don’t just take in knowledge, we are constantly comparing it to a prior and updating that prior, but we aren’t aware of our own biases which can take a huge precedence over new information).

mud_dauber 2 years ago

I wore "11" as a sophomore HS running back, then moved to "40" for my junior & senior years. I gained almost zero weight (or muscle), but I swear I looked GOOD with those skinny ones on my front & back.

Nicholas_C 2 years ago

I remember my teammates being extremely picky about which numbers they’d wear and I always caught grief for wearing #8 as a running back since it’s thought of as a QB number (Troy Aikman, Steve Young). In hindsight maybe they were on to something.

cbsmith 2 years ago

Gretzky seemed to do just fine with 99...

webel0 2 years ago

This seems similar to observing that vertical and horizontal stripes on clothes (and the width of the stripes) can affect how one perceives a silhouette.

canjobear 2 years ago

No way this replicates. Classic junk psychology result.

m3kw9 2 years ago

To level the play field all players must wear 3 digit numbers and the numbers 1, 0 and 7 will not be allowed

  • mertd 2 years ago

    and they have to change it every 3 months. The new number cannot be similar to the last 10 numbers used.

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