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The Problem with Linus Tech Tips [video]

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95 points by Readerium 2 years ago · 20 comments

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ReaderiumOP 2 years ago

The video is not monetized. It covers serious concerns regarding the data accuracy of Linus Media Group, including Linus Tech Tips, ShortCircuit, and TechQuickie, particularly as it relates to rushing content out the door to favor -- by staff's own admission -- quantity over quality. As the company continues to expand into its LTT Labs direction, the importance of accurate data increases; however, even as 'only' entertainment, there are still certain responsibilities to the consumer and the manufacturers to report fairly (and to have defined corrections processes in place). The video tries to approach this as objectively as possible and hope that viewers are able to listen to the evidence presented, particularly as it relates to significant and frequent data errors that now present in nearly every technical review video.

BonoboIO 2 years ago

The BilletLabs story is soul crushing. If Linus does not claim responsibility, is not better than any other hypocrite he criticized.

  • lrae 2 years ago

    He showed that in the past already.

    Being pro unions... unless it is in his own companies.

    Warranty on products... unless it's his own products.

    His employees are seemingly pretty underpaid too and that while having some of the strictest rules around letting them build their own online presence of "youtube / new media companies" out there. Tbf, on the last point, I'm not sure if he ever criticized other companies for underpaying their employees in the past.

    • FireBeyond 2 years ago

      Some of the behind the scene videos (of LTT employees talking about their processes) GN shows are pretty scathing. If this is the stuff they are willing to go on camera and say, imagine what else lurks under the hood.

      "I wish we could make better quality videos" - you can, the company just chooses not to.

      "There's no videos we've made that I'm really actually proud of" - just ouch.

      • padjo 2 years ago

        I can’t believe this was in a video they published themselves! Is their company culture so awful that employees saying their product is garbage isn’t seen as a problem?

    • jonwest 2 years ago

      That last point is pretty rough if true, given that LTT was born out of him being an employee of a relatively small retailer who he ended up making videos for.

      • lrae 2 years ago

        I don't know if there were ever any concrete numbers out there, but I think not even Linus would deny that he isn't paying great.

        Employees are also not allowed to discuss their salaries with each other, their employee handbook was leaked earlier this year by a disgruntled ex employee and is out there.

        Them being strict about stopping employees from "competing" is also something they talked about openly in the past. (And there were also some shots fired by ex employees.)

      • dagw 2 years ago

        If anyone understands the 'risks' of giving an employee a platform to promote themselves, it would be Linus.

        • lrae 2 years ago

          Sure, don't disagree. But then you should at least pay (and treat) them fairly.

  • guax 2 years ago

    He did not. Doubled down on his response on the forum.

    The crux seems to be in him not realising that he not liking a product is not enough to make it the only point and everything moot.

    They misplaced the card they received to test with. Decided to not wait and reshoot and made a terribly unprofessional video justifying that the product premisse was already bad.

    The product is fine, its expensive but its niche and unique, it would be totally ok for them to conclude with something like:

    "I cant recommend this to replace any block in the market, there are cheaper and equally performant alternatives. But, none looks like this or work like this, so some of you might be interested in knowing that you get what its advertised for a very steep price."

    He of all people, building a pool water cooling and other insanity should know that people might like to spend more money to have something fun, different or unique.

    • preisschild 2 years ago

      Not only did he double down, he lied about it.

      He said that they already started refunding Billet before GNs video, but GN asked Billet, and it turns out they did ghost them until after GN released the video.

    • yndoendo 2 years ago

      This is like reviewing a P2 screw driver while testing it on P1 screws only while demanding that the P2 sucks. There is now way I can respect the work Linux Tech Tips does anymore. To be fair, I only used them occasionally to keep up to date on new hardware.

PrivateButts 2 years ago

Follow up from Steve about Linus' response: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3byz3txpso

Looks like Steve was right to not contact LTT before publishing, as Linus misrepresented his handling of the Billet Labs situation in his statement.

  • refracture 2 years ago

    Yeah, there really isn't any other way to get to the real feelings about the matter publicly unless you do what Steve did.. and unfortunately I believe Steve is correct that there is nothing Linus can say or do that will quickly fix this. He had his shot to show he cared and he blew it.

brucethemoose2 2 years ago

I am not suprised.

I dont want GN much and I watch LTT even less, but the later feels more unprofessional, hyped and "influencery" than the oldschool text hardware reviewers. May they rest in peace.

Night_Thastus 2 years ago

A well-made, but unfortunate video. It's a shame that things like this had to be said about LTT. I hope one day they do better. More (good) information to consumers is a great goal!

themacguffinman 2 years ago

For extra context, Linus' response to this so far: https://linustechtips.com/topic/1526180-gamers-nexus-alleges...

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