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A Survey of Worldwide Censorship Techniques

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72 points by AgrMohit 3 years ago · 15 comments

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causi 3 years ago

Really ought to be named "A survey of Worldwide Electronic Censorship Techniques". The article doesn't address where most censorship takes place, at the propaganda and legal levels.

  • __jambo 3 years ago

    what are "legal levels"?

    • causi 3 years ago

      In some places men from the government will show up at your house to punish you for going online and saying gamer words.

      • flangola7 3 years ago

        Gamer words? "I need more diamond ore?"

        • causi 3 years ago

          Curses, slurs, etc.

          • flangola7 3 years ago

            What? I don't see your point then. Hate criminals should obviously should be punished for using slurs.

            • sneed_chucker 3 years ago

              Unkind words shouldn't be a crime in and of themselves - that includes slurs.

              It makes sense to criminalize stated threats of violence or persistent targeted harassment, but generally free societies should err on the side of not criminalizing speech if possible.

              • flangola7 3 years ago

                My nation and the elders of my family historically responded to proponents of hate ideologies with hot lead and HE artillery shells. Letting them get off with nothing more than a minor criminal record is an extremely generous offer.

            • causi 3 years ago

              Personally I refuse to live in a country where thought-crime is prosecuted.

              • flangola7 3 years ago

                Hate criminals don't deserve life, much less speech. Every day is a good day to beat a nazi.

breck 3 years ago

Copyright originated in 1557 as a tool of censorship. ^1

[1] https://www.copyrighthistory.org/cam/commentary/uk_1557/uk_1...

  • is_this_valid2 3 years ago

    History of Copyright: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_copyright

    From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_James_Version :

    > In January 1604, King James convened the Hampton Court Conference, where a new English version was conceived in response to the problems of the earlier translations perceived by the Puritans,[7] a faction of [...]

    > The translation was done by 6 panels of translators (47 men in all, most of whom were leading biblical scholars in England) who had the work divided up between them: the Old Testament was entrusted to three panels, the New Testament to two, and the Apocrypha to one.[10] In common with most other translations of the period, the New Testament was translated from Greek, the Old Testament from Hebrew and Aramaic, and the Apocrypha from Greek and Latin.

    And they translated Hebrew "Kaneh Bosm" as "Calamus", a sweet cane that's not an active ingredient; and then copyrighted their work of men.

jruohonen 3 years ago

Good that IETF is tracking these things, including the crazy stuff involved like messing with the BGP.

However, sometimes I think IETF is living in the past; it feels like they've missed the rise of platform economy within which also most of the censorship nowadays occur.

Also: the report dates to 2023 but the sources referenced are mostly from the 2010s. There are also a lot of questionable sources involved.

breck 3 years ago

"A Survey of Worldwide Censorship Techniques" then on the very first page is a big "Copyright Notice...All rights reserved.".

Copyright is censorship. The most widespread form of it. Sometimes I feel like I'm living in Westworld: "Doesn't look like anything to me."

Proven 3 years ago

1) Shadow banning and similar techniques employed by Big Tech (but also her eon HN) should be added

2) Government explicit and implicit (bullshit "laws" and such) interference should have its own section

3) Domain name seizures: this could become a serious issue worldwide. See https://reclaimthenet.org/new-proposals-would-let-government...

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