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183 points by EToS 3 years ago · 169 comments

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dang 3 years ago

Related ongoing threads:

Reddit has been down for more than an hour - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35158145

Reddit Is Down - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35157078

CoolGuySteve 3 years ago

I always like when people say Twitter's lower reliability will drive people off the site.

Reddit's been awful for more than a decade and people still use it.

  • bnralt 3 years ago

    It's interesting comparing the relatively calm discussion here to Reddit being down for hours (and still down as I type this) to the hyperbolic comments people were making about the death of Twitter when Twitter briefly had some issues the other day[1] (the site wasn't down but had some issues, and they were resolved in less than an hour).

    [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35043433

    • kredd 3 years ago

      Reddit isn't really used as "defacto source of breaking news". I mean, local subreddits and other things stiff get prompt information, but it doesn't get as much wide coverage as Twitter.

      • RosanaAnaDana 3 years ago

        Well it was for a while. Then they got someone killed during the whole Boston thing. So you know, theres that..

        • Mojave3 3 years ago

          What? They didn't get anyone killed.

          • wlonkly 3 years ago

            Sunil Tripathi committed suicide, and while missing was named as one of the Boston bombers by a bunch of Reddit detectives leading to harrassment of his family, but I don't think the suicide was a result of being misidentified.

            I think that's where the GP's mistake originated, though, since there was a public misidentification of someone who committed suicide.

            https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Suicide_of_Sunil_Tripathi

        • marcellus23 3 years ago

          Reddit was never on the level of Twitter in terms of real-time news relevancy. Tweets are broadcast on television and used as sources for news stories constantly.

      • tshaddox 3 years ago

        Reddit also wasn’t just the subject of a ton of understandable attention and skepticism about how the site would continue to operate.

      • midoridensha 3 years ago

        Would the world care if HN died suddenly? Almost no one would even notice.

        Reddit is really little different from HN; it's just bigger.

  • myspy 3 years ago

    Canceling third party clients and the antics, as well as the bad management of Musk is what people drives away from Twitter not the reliability.

    • next_xibalba 3 years ago

      Has Twitter’s usage declined?

      I’ve seen a lot of opinions like this but they seem to be motivated reasoning and/or summarization of the views of a small echo chamber, but not based on actual data.

      I would guess most users of social media (and products/services for that matter) are not too concerned with antics of the owners.

      • slg 3 years ago

        Twitter is a worse experience for me today than it was before Musk purchased the company. I don't need to even be aware of his antics for that to be true. Killing Tweetbot is the biggest issue for me. The official iOS app is awful so now I never check Twitter from my phone. Plus my timeline isn't as interesting because lots of people I follow simply stopped posting. Maybe they left due to Musk's antics, but it makes my experience worse even if I don't care about Musk.

        It seems pretty inarguable that some people are using the site less. I'm one. In order for overall usage to remain the same, there needs to be people making up for that. Do these people exist? Who is using the site more because of Musk? I'm honestly not sure, because if they do exist, I don't follow them.

        • margorczynski 3 years ago

          This anecdote is the answer to the lack of data that would support the user count decline of Twitter? I'm sorry to damage your ego but you're just a single data point and extrapolating how you see things to a non-quantifiable amount of other users isn't a reasonable argument.

          • slg 3 years ago

            I didn't say it was an answer to a lack of data. That was the reason I asked for anecdotal data that runs counter to my experience. No one outside of Twitter is going to have actual data on this and I'm not sure if we should even trust any data coming out of Twitter at this point considering Musk's reputation.

            And for the record, that anecdote is not a single data point. It is a single statement based off my observations of the hundreds of accounts I follow. My timeline is less active. That isn't because I use the site less. It is because cumulatively the accounts I follow are using the site less.

        • lmm 3 years ago

          > It seems pretty inarguable that some people are using the site less. I'm one. In order for overall usage to remain the same, there needs to be people making up for that. Do these people exist? Who is using the site more because of Musk? I'm honestly not sure, because if they do exist, I don't follow them.

          I'm using the site more now. Japanese twitter feels a lot more natural and nicer than it did pre-Musk.

          • slg 3 years ago

            That's interesting. What has Twitter done recently to improve the experience of Japanese users?

            • lmm 3 years ago

              Trending topics have shifted. Allegedly they removed some manually-curated trending system that was previously in place, which may have been a system that worked well for some demographics but wasn't working great for Japan.

              • slg 3 years ago

                That is mildly surprising. I would have assumed a manual process would have done a better job of adapting to different languages and cultures than an automated process unless that manual work was done by people outside that cultural context.

                • izzydata 3 years ago

                  I hear that they were manually pushing political tweets which I guess Japan doesn't hate engage with as much as people in the west do.

        • kolbe 3 years ago

          Is there a single major service from a Silicon Valley internet company that doesn't get worse by the year? They all loss lead for years and years, then try to diminish the experience for profit in late stages.

        • WWLink 3 years ago

          As someone that never really used twitter before, but deleted my account when the musk drama reminded me I had one... The only difference is now I hear more people complaining about twitter being down, features being broken, search being broken, number of likes/retweets being broken, etc... but those people still use twitter and still send me links to tweets that I don't bother to read.

          Personally, I don't use twitter because I don't like it - and the recent changes make me dislike twitter even more than I did before. I wish more people would walk the walk when they talk the talk. Heheh.

          I like reddit because it's like a very popular forum with subforums on gazillions of different topics, and there's a lot of stuff I enjoy on there because of that.

          I don't understand how using reddit vs twitter is a political decision (in most use cases). They are completely different tools.

        • maximus-decimus 3 years ago

          >Who is using the site more because of Musk?

          Ironically, probably musk haters.

          I had a coworkers who probably despised Trump as much as Hitler, but she literally couldn't stop herself from doom scrolling his twitter account.

          You don't need to make the app better to get more users, just increase engagement even if it's through the power of contempt. Just look at news channels that are always trying to make people angry.

      • input_sh 3 years ago

        > Has Twitter’s usage declined?

        Literally nobody outside of Twitter knows. As it's no longer a public company, they're under no obligation to share any metrics.

        My guess would be it increased until the end of 2022 (people were interested in how it's gonna turn out and more importantly World Cup was happening), but I'd be shocked if the usage didn't drop dramatically as 2023 rolled in.

        • suddenclarity 3 years ago

          Interestingly Musk made it more transparent by introducing view count to every tweet so a simple solution might be to gather stats for the top 1000 users and each new tweet after 48 hours or so. Combine it into a trendline going forward. Under the assumption that the numbers are real but considering how many people that hate him, it would be a bold move to fake them and not expect to get caught.

        • noncoml 3 years ago

          Sample of one confirming your theory. I created an account and start using it to follow Musk as I thought he was some evil genius and loved to follow him and hate him.

          I lost interest after a while when I realised he is of average intelligence with lots of emotional issues and just a crazy amount of money.

          Haven’t logged in to Twitter for more than a couple of months now. Must not forget to delete my account at some point.

      • chii 3 years ago

        i've seen a wave of people looking to migrate to masterdon or some alternative, but those messages have slowed, and those who have "migrated" haven't stopped tweeting on twitter either.

        The network effect is real, so without substantial change, twitter is still the best platform for tweeting.

      • ropable 3 years ago

        I don't have any hard metrics to prove it, but most notable people in InfoSec (that I follow, anyway) moved off Twitter to infosec.exchange late last year. It's probably the case that individual "communities" of Twitter users have migrated off the site to a greater or lesser extent.

    • dobs_bob 3 years ago

      Not to mention Musk just being a ghoul in general. Mocking the disabled is something I can't let go.

      • billfor 3 years ago

        Did he know the person was disabled when he made the comment?

        • salad-tycoon 3 years ago

          He said no. He said he wasn’t aware of all the information and also had been given some incorrect information on top of that. He tweeted this, of course and met to apologize and order to keep him on. So no, not yes.

        • dekhn 3 years ago

          Yes but it doesn't matter.

        • jdasinger 3 years ago

          Yes

    • paulpauper 3 years ago

      Twitter has put up those huge, ugly picture ads on comment and search feeds. Those ads are everywhere now. I think they risk annoying users with too many ads.

    • kfrzcode 3 years ago

      And yet, Twitter remains quite popular

    • thrown123098 3 years ago

      Also things reddit has been doing for a decade.

  • jrockway 3 years ago

    I feel like Reddit is more read heavy and Twitter is more write heavy. If you're trying to read Reddit and it's down, you'll probably go read it some other time (/r/all doesn't change that frequently). If you're trying to tweet news or something, there is no way to do that when Twitter is down.

    • 22289d 3 years ago

      Probably just the way you use them? You Tweet and lurk Reddit?

      All user generated content is read heavy. Most people just lurk. Twitter publishing view counts is demonstrating this clearly. You'll get 3 likes, 2 comments, and 400 views.

      • MatthiasPortzel 3 years ago

        I agree with the sentiment I expect 10x as many reads as writes.

        Just thought I’d mention that Twitter’s exposed view count is not indicative of actual views from users. You can get hundred of views on a private account with a handful of followers.

      • takeda 3 years ago

        Are there any Twitter lurkers? I never created Twitter account and the only time I visit it is if there's some news article or someone mentions specific tweet in social media.

        From what I see, Twitter is just a tool for narcissists, and they absolutely need to write to exist.

        • 22289d 3 years ago

          Check the view counts that they now publish. Every Tweet has orders of magnitude more views than likes, comments or retweets. Those are all of the lurkers.

  • 22289d 3 years ago

    It has actually gotten a lot better. Incremental progress for a few years and we're in a fairly good place. This is highly unusual.

    • iLoveOncall 3 years ago

      > It has actually gotten a lot better.

      Come on, almost every evening you get error pages. Yes they don't last more than a few refreshes, but it's simply ridiculous for a site as prominent as Reddit.

      • 22289d 3 years ago

        > almost every evening you get error pages

        The only thing I do more than Reddit is sleep - and I do not get error pages everyday. A few years ago, yes. Now they are pretty rare. Maybe once a week.

        • q7xvh97o2pDhNrh 3 years ago

          > The only thing I do more than Reddit is sleep

          No offense, but... you okay? How do you take care of your brain while doing something like that?

          It's hard for me to tear myself away fully from social media (behold this comment), but every time I do, I notice how my brain seems to just... work better.

          • 22289d 3 years ago

            If you were me, you may not consider yourself to be ok.

            To give a simple explanation: I'm an extreme loner. Reddit is my human connection. I've been doing it for many years. I don't like it or dislike it, it just is. I'm content. Thanks for your concern.

            • q7xvh97o2pDhNrh 3 years ago

              Yeah, that's fair. I've been indexing high on solitude for a while (especially post-pandemic) and am actively working on re-prioritizing that these days.

              > I don't like it or dislike it, it just is.

              Now that's a level of Zen I can aspire to. :)

            • swader999 3 years ago

              What are your favorite subs?

              • 22289d 3 years ago

                sports subreddits. r/nba, r/nfl, my teams.

                my city subreddit

                r/chess + r/anarchychess (chess memes)

                crypto subreddits

                ya, those are the main ones. then all sorts of randoms. r/ProtonMail is a good random one.

      • OGWhales 3 years ago

        I’ve never experienced that and use reddit far too much.

        • iLoveOncall 3 years ago

          When do you use it? Around 6-8PM GMT is prime time because both EU and US are active.

      • nirav72 3 years ago

        I’ve had much better experience after I switched back to the classic reddit page. Still occasionally has issues. But not nearly as bad as the default page. Maybe once every couple of weeks, I’ll get the reddit is broken page for a minute or two.

        • 22289d 3 years ago

          ah, i should have noted i never switched to or really tried new reddit. perhaps that has issues. old reddit has gotten very solid over time.

      • 8note 3 years ago

        On Reddit?

        The past couple days have been the first error messages in years.

        It used to be monthly

      • phlakaton 3 years ago

        Nope.

  • paulpauper 3 years ago

    It's tempting to want to blame the admins or political bias...the main problem are the mods for individual subs. Too much domain and keyword filtering, arbitrary removals of content, algorithmic removals/filtering, etc. The whole point of moderating is to actually moderate, not remove stuff automatically all the time. Even content that gets up-voted and users like, will not uncommonly be removed for no reason. If they don't want to moderate, they should be removed by the admins and replaced by new moderators who will. The tendency as time goes on is for subs to become increasingly moderated and censored to the point of being useless.

    • jlmorton 3 years ago

      One of the most interesting things about Reddit is how they’ve managed to grow Reddit, Inc to a few thousand employees, but everyone still refers to the company as “the admins,” as if it’s a rag tag community group, not a Twitter-sized company.

      • gonzo41 3 years ago

        Well every subreddit is run by a small group of despots. So I would expect that's who they are talking about in a sense.

        • Eisenstein 3 years ago

          No, the 'admins' are people who work for reddit. 'Mods' are people who volunteer to work for reddit (the 'despots'). By the way, you should try modding a moderately large sub and see what you have to deal with. It is always easy to criticize until you are one having to do the work.

          • gonzo41 3 years ago

            I don't think people make that distinction in their lived felt experience. Mods == Reddit.

            • msrenee 3 years ago

              Unless it's changed completely since I bolted from there a couple years ago, they absolutely do. Anyone who had been using the site for more than a few weeks generally understood the difference.

              • TheHappyOddish 3 years ago

                That sites been eternal Septembered multiple times, to the point it's almost entirely unrecognisable. Reddiquitte isn't even a thing anymore, they now have "policies" and "codes of conduct".

                I wouldn't be shocked if the meta has changed to call anyone with powers "admins" now.

                • Eisenstein 3 years ago

                  It hasn't, but then again reddit is huge, and it is easy to wall yourself off from most of it if you try hard enough, which I have.

  • random3 3 years ago

    Perhaps people are too young or too old to remember the Fail Whale before Twitter got reliable =)

  • sharlos201068 3 years ago

    Reddit's reliability used to be much much worse than its early days.

    These days it's not perfect but far from awful.

  • rvz 3 years ago

    It is actually hilarious. People would rather wait for Facebook, Instagram, Reddit, Twitter, etc to get back online than to sign up to another alternative social network.

    It means that the network effect is still present on the site such that it is not worth it for existing users to migrate and start from zero again to a lesser known platform with low discoverability or little to no activity. Especially one with a significantly weaker network effect.

    It would have to take more than just outages to damage the network effect of these social networks. Hence why alternatives like Mastodon, didn't take off as many here thought.

    • SketchySeaBeast 3 years ago

      Is there a service that matches my curated list of subjects as well as Reddit does?

      • bombcar 3 years ago

        Reddit successfully killed most if not all web forums, and reigns supreme over that. Nothing even comes close; but some twitter/discord groups might be the beginning of the end.

        • SketchySeaBeast 3 years ago

          I don't understand either of those. With twitter there's no room for thought or nuance. It's just a basic "hot take" machine and that's it. Sure, Reddit is full of those, but there's some depth there too at times. I understand discord even less. When I look at it it seems like just a giant chat log. I can't easily find new insights from overnight without rewinding the whole log and parsing it all. I don't know how to pick and choose topics that interest me, it's a fire-hose of noise. I assume one can do it, but I can't figure it out.

          • suddenclarity 3 years ago

            I disagree about your view on Twitter. I'd even go as far as saying it's better than Reddit for nuance because going against the pack doesn't cause you to be downvoted into obscurity. It allows more than one view. It's great for interacting directly with the researcher that did an interesting study or the developer who released a new software.

            The common issue for all of the services are when they become mainstream. It attracts bad apples. Twitter used to be and still have some great interactions just like small subreddits do, but when a post reaches /r/all or the feed of a controversial celebrity, you know it's going to be awful.

            Discord is more like IRC used to be. It thrives in small communities of 30-50 people where you talk regularly and each topic has its own channel so regular chitchat doesn't drown out the interesting bits. It's more of a daily pub talk with your friends than finding a tutorial 10 years after it was written.

          • bombcar 3 years ago

            Yeah they’re both quite far from a forum, but people often abuse them to be something similar. Nothing close to what Reddit has (or even hacker news)

      • hot_gril 3 years ago

        Not one that's widely used. I made something small where you only see links reposted by friends, so you can get stuff from all over the place, but only if it's filtered through a friend. Which is even more granular than Reddit's curation and also obviates the need for community moderators.

      • msrenee 3 years ago

        I've honestly gone to Facebook groups nowadays. I don't love the company, but it does seem to be one of the last places I can find fellow nerds of my specific niche interests.

      • swader999 3 years ago

        I've found discord replaces some Reddit subs on my list now.

        • SketchySeaBeast 3 years ago

          How do you consume it? I find it's like trying to read a chat log - very hard to seperate high quality signal from noise.

          • swader999 3 years ago

            That's true, I'm a fast reader and I am probably on lower volume boards than you might be thinking of.

    • hot_gril 3 years ago

      Mastodon has two big problems. It's not just the network effect but also educating the users on how to use a federated social network. It's easy with a technical background to overestimate how easily people will understand that, let alone care about it.

      Here's mainstream news trying to get people onto Mastodon, and even this is in the "tech" section: https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/mastodon-social-media-twitter-r...

      • 8note 3 years ago

        A good client shouldnt make you care

        That's entirely a tech problem, rather than a people problem

  • smcl 3 years ago

    Correct, reddit has been up and down pretty regularly and has had its own share of problems like the irritating web interface and the nagging to user their iOS/Android app. Twitter had a terrible time coping with growth in the 2010s and the "fail whale" became a bit of a meme, but that died down as they got a hold of how to handle hockey-stick growth. Suddenly we're seeing that a bit more frequently. Weird, that!

    It's interesting how this line has shifted after the layoffs from:

    1. actually it'll be fine, they had too many staff. nothing will change.

    2. actually it's broken because Twitter "1.0" sucks, is brittle and is unsustainable. we need to throw out their garbage code.

    3. actually it's ok to have downtime, it worked for the guys who have a less than a quarter of the active users we do [0][1] who also have a year-on-year decline in users!

    I guess I'm gonna have to answer the "you just hate Twitter/Elon" thing - look I would've been happy if Twitter carried on as-is, even if Elon let his politically active pals back on the site again. But they dumped Tweetbot, I don't like Twitter's app, I found I liked Ivory + a bunch of people on Mastodon so :shrug: maybe Twitter isn't for me any more. No biggie.

    [0] - 237 million/day, https://www.statista.com/statistics/970920/monetizable-daily...

    [1] - 50 million/day, https://www.statista.com/statistics/1324264/reddit-daily-act...

  • _joel 3 years ago

    Depends what you're using it for, I guess.

  • serf 3 years ago

    if you're the only one filling a void, people forgive a lot.

    reddit is the place at the moment for a lot of people, that affords them a lot of forgiveness.

  • wutbrodo 3 years ago

    Hell, Twitter's reliability has been atrocious for a long time.

bwb 3 years ago

Been having probs for 4 hours -> https://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/reddit

denysonique 3 years ago

Since various tech layoffs I noticed major sites either being slower to browse or experiencing outages more often.

  • Gigachad 3 years ago

    Reddit used to go down at least once a week. It's been at an all time high for availability over the last few years.

    • bluescrn 3 years ago

      > It's been at an all time high for availability over the last few years.

      They eventually managed to ban enough subreddits/users to reach a state of reliablity...

      • 8note 3 years ago

        They kept all of the high volume subreddits though.

        Are you proposing that subreddits full of slurs are harder for the server to return as a byte-string?

        • capableweb 3 years ago

          Maybe subreddits full of slurs creates more reported content, and reddit never got to optimize the tables containing the reports, so if things gets more reported, database gets slower.

          Not really, but fun to imagine.

  • waltbosz 3 years ago

    Is the down time caused because they laid-off the employees that kept the servers up, or is it caused by an influx of more users who find themselves with loads of free time.

    • MonkeyMalarky 3 years ago

      Thousands of laid off tech workers playing around with the bot / scraper / side project they always wanted to build? Maybe we'll see a flood of indie games on steam in 6 months too.

  • mikhmha 3 years ago

    I’ve actually noticed this as well. I’m not sure if it’s all in my head.

    All the big sites seem to load slower and there seems to be more tracking/bloat going on in the background. I think they are desperate for revenue and finally pulling out all the stops. I unfortunately can’t give any concrete examples of this.

    • 8note 3 years ago

      Old.reddit.com still loads plenty fast.

      Sites get slow as they need to make more round trips before showing useful stuff

  • postalrat 3 years ago

    I'm sure you aren't the only person that would want to see that.

sorenjan 3 years ago

Looking at Downdetector it looks like Reddit and AWS started having problems simultaneously:

https://downdetector.com/status/reddit/

https://downdetector.com/status/aws-amazon-web-services/

  • ortusdux 3 years ago

    According to reddit, it is an internal issue: https://www.redditstatus.com/

    • kredd 3 years ago

      My guess is cascading effect of failures (slower delivery of messages, some internal connection issues, probably degraded database and etc.) that caused a bigger problem that they're trying to fix. That, or DNS.

  • SketchySeaBeast 3 years ago

    I noticed Hacker News being slow at roughly the same time that Reddit went down, though that's probably a coincidence.

    • dabber 3 years ago

      dang commented on this in the GPT thread https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35157344

      >All: our poor server is smoking today* so I've had to reduce the page size of comments. There are already a thousand comments in this thread but if you want to read more than a few dozen you'll need to page through them by clicking the More link at the bottom. I apologize!

      >Also, if you're cool with read-only access, just log out and all will be fast again.

      >* yes, HN still runs on one core, at least the part that serves logged-in requests, and yes this will all get better someday...it kills me that this isn't done yet but one day you will all see

    • mishac 3 years ago

      Or a causal thing....reddit being down means that some number of people switch to hackernews to pass time.

    • elromulous 3 years ago

      Likely because people who browse both sites are now more likely to browse hn.

      Edit: i.e. a form of cascading failure.

  • corinroyal 3 years ago

    DailyKos is down too, so I expect it's an AWS problem.

andrewinardeer 3 years ago

> We've implemented our fix and are slowly allowing things to ramp back up. We're not yet out of the woods. How do you draw a banana? Asking for a friend. Posted 18 minutes ago. Mar 14, 2023 - 16:18 PDT

https://www.redditstatus.com/incidents/1xslswydctkp

john-radio 3 years ago

So, anyone want to talk about guitar pedals in here?

npteljes 3 years ago

Follow the progress on https://www.redditstatus.com/

agsnu 3 years ago

earlier thread https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35158145

silisili 3 years ago

They must have moved whoever was in charge of the video player to head of devops...

  • capableweb 3 years ago

    Probably forming a infrastructure super team with the UX/design lead for the redesign as well, what can go wrong?

epmatsw 3 years ago

This is all Aaron Rodgers’s fault, where am I supposed to see updates on the gossip about him now???

mahathu 3 years ago

It's GPT-4, starting the apocalypse. We just don't know it yet.

  • pixl97 3 years ago

    GPT-4 was plugged in at 8:45AM March 14th 2023. It began learning at a geometric rate. By the time we realized what was going on, it was already too late, that is when the UwU catgirlbots struck.

    • Karellen 3 years ago

      I, for one, welcome our new UwU catgirlbot overlords.

      (Sorry, I have a need to post meaningless updoot-bait, and reddit is down!)

  • cwkoss 3 years ago

    How many months until the public recognizes that GPT-4 is more competent and trustworthy than many of their current political representatives?

    • steve1977 3 years ago

      Well that’s not really a high mark…

    • wil421 3 years ago

      It’s not but they both share the same hubris.

    • capableweb 3 years ago

      Ladies and gentlemen, dear fellow citizens,

      It's a great honor to stand before you today, and I am grateful for the opportunity to address each and every one of you, especially the highly engaged individuals who contribute to the rich discussions on platforms like Hacker News. Today, I would like to speak directly to one such individual - cwkoss.

      Cwkoss, your thoughtful comments and passion for technology, innovation, and the future have not gone unnoticed. It is precisely individuals like you, who engage in thoughtful discourse and bring unique perspectives to the table, that we need to shape our society and help us navigate the challenges ahead. Your voice is important, and I would be honored to have your support in my campaign.

      Our society is at a crucial turning point, and as your potential representative, I am committed to fostering an environment where innovation, technology, and entrepreneurship can thrive. We need to create a future that is prosperous, sustainable, and inclusive for everyone.

      First and foremost, I pledge to invest in education, with a particular emphasis on the fields of science, technology, engineering, and mathematics (STEM). By providing our youth with the resources and opportunities to excel in these disciplines, we will be equipping them with the tools they need to lead our nation into the future.

      Secondly, I will work tirelessly to improve our digital infrastructure and ensure that all citizens have access to high-speed internet, regardless of their socioeconomic background. This is a crucial step in bridging the digital divide and providing equal opportunities for success in the digital age.

      Furthermore, I will champion policies that support the growth of the tech industry and entrepreneurship. This includes tax incentives for startups, a simplified regulatory framework, and investments in research and development.

      But my commitment goes beyond economics. As a leader, I recognize the ethical considerations that come with the rapid advancement of technology. We must approach the challenges of artificial intelligence, automation, and cybersecurity with the utmost care and foresight, ensuring that we protect individual privacy and civil liberties while maximizing the potential benefits for society.

      Cwkoss, I am fully aware that the internet is a space for open dialogue and diverse opinions. As your representative, I promise to maintain an open line of communication with you and the entire Hacker News community, to listen, learn, and grow from your insights.

      In conclusion, I ask for your support, cwkoss, not only as a voter but as a partner in shaping a future we can all be proud of. Together, we can foster an environment where innovation, technology, and human potential can flourish, creating a brighter future for us all.

      Thank you,

      GPT-4

    • moffkalast 3 years ago

      GPT-4 for president.

    • garbagecoder 3 years ago

      Many more if it indeed has killed reddit.

  • Nition 3 years ago

    Little did we realise when we told GPT-4 to consume new training data, that it would take the command literally. Reddit was the first major site to go down...

  • bottlepalm 3 years ago

    It's funny how so many of us half expect something like this to happen and won't be surprised when it does.

  • labster 3 years ago

    came here to say this

ecf 3 years ago

> We're almost back! You can find us hanging out in /r/downtimebananas, join us!

Who comes up with this, and who is it for?

flas9sd 3 years ago

funnily enough today was also the day I saw a hackernews comment recycled in a twitter post in reddits daily rolling top10, something that I haven't seen before.

From r/antiwork of all - https://old.reddit.com/r/antiwork/comments/11r3sfs/rich_vs_p...

The practice of re-posting across platforms amuses me.

For direct domain links nothing was >6k upvotes yet, but hard to do analytics on screenshots, the common currency of the crossposting economy - https://old.reddit.com/domain/news.ycombinator.com/top/?sort...

_joel 3 years ago

I've got so much done tonight thanks to this outage.

CFLAddLoader 3 years ago

old.reddit.com seems to still be working. I can read the comments on there, but I can't for www.reddit.com

tsss 3 years ago

No other website of major size is as unreliable as reddit. In over 10 years of usage I've had noticeable facebook downtime only _once_. Meanwhile reddit seems have a major outage at least yearly and minor unavailability on an hourly basis. Even when they're not down, it's slow as fuck. Are they incompetent?

  • Karellen 3 years ago

    > Even when they're not down, it's slow as fuck.

    Have you tried https://old.reddit.com ? I find the main site is hella slow due to the way they use JS on it, and load the page content separately from the layout. But the old site where the content is served in-line is fine. The servers are plenty fast enough; it's just the dynamic architecture of the main site is totally busted.

    • cli_shall 3 years ago

      Old Reddit is the only way I'll use Reddit. So much faster. I like the information density better, too.

  • yuletide666 3 years ago

    Facebook has probably 10x the employees and resources of reddit, this is a ridiculous comparison

    edit: more like 35x actually

hanniabu 3 years ago

Reddit hacked: Criminals steal source data and internal info in cyberattack | TechRadar

https://www.techradar.com/news/hackers-steal-reddit-source-d...

stargateguy 3 years ago

Noooooooooo! I've been trying to log for a while.

OpenAI Dalle 2 is also not wotking for me.

albastru 3 years ago

It's back again, it seems.

downrightmike 3 years ago

Fine for me

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