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Have More Sex, Please

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13 points by philangist 3 years ago · 15 comments

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smcg 3 years ago

I don't get the central premise of the article. Why would a NYT author asking "please" be the deciding factor in whether me and someone else has sex? It's something we do for us and ourselves, not because an author is upset at statistics. The author correctly points out that having sex is a political and social statement, but then fails to understand what motivates most people to make such statements.

retrac 3 years ago

I suspect the decline is associated with the unrealistic hyper-attractive humans we see in media. Insecurity about body image seems to be on the rise. And then there's stuff like this: https://www.utsouthwestern.edu/newsroom/articles/year-2022/s...

Anecdotally, I've noticed young men seem more insecure about taking their shirts off in public, even in contexts like at the beach, than they were in my generation (a couple decades ago). If you think your body is some gross thing that others shouldn't be subjected to, and that nudity is extremely awkward and embarrassing, I imagine sex is rather anxiety-inducing.

  • schwartzworld 3 years ago

    > Anecdotally, I've noticed young men seem more insecure about taking their shirts off in public

    How do you know it's due to insecurity and not growing awareness of the dangers of ultraviolet radiation?

    • retrac 3 years ago

      Are we more aware of the risks of UV than 20 years ago? Maybe it's because I have a skin type that burns in 10 minutes but I was about as concerned about that then as now.

      • LeFantome 3 years ago

        Robocop was making 2000 SPF jokes in 1997. That means that the risk of UV was something that people were “aware” of but the pop-culture take was that high-SPF sunscreens were a bit of a joke and “a terrible future” where you had to take it seriously was something to make fun of as well.

        As I recall, the high-SPF sunscreen in the Robocop spoof included a warning that the sunscreen itself was carcinogenic. This is more evidence that that the intent was not to warn of the very real risks of the sun but rather to take shots at the rapid increase in SPF ratings ( going from 2 and 4 being normal and weirdos buying 8 to 30 and 45 being common on the shelf if memory serves ).

        Edit: sorry, it was 5000 SPF https://youtu.be/8oJzfmWO3CU

      • filoleg 3 years ago

        Being aware and caring about it are different things. When I was a child and my family went to a beach (which was roughly maybe 2 weeks out of a year), parents encouraged tanning a lot. "Get those sun vitamins" and all.

        And then my grandfather died from skin cancer. You bet that as an adult, I am not exposing much of my skin to sun at all when I am out on a sunny day, and I apply sunscreen to my face daily. I have no issues with being shirtless otherwise, and do it quite often, mostly at the gym.

        Disclaimer: my gym is a small local one, not a massive chain, and being shirtless there is both explicitly allowed and is very common. At any given point, about a quarter of the people there will be shirtless.

      • LeFantome 3 years ago

        Well, I am old so perhaps my anecdotal opinions are invalid. That said, I would have been young and in shape enough 20 years ago to take my shirt off and I would not have considered UV a real risk. My mother and girlfriends may have started to use real sunscreen instead of baby oil but they were still heading to the beach for rays and I still basically ignored the stuff. I feel like even younger people view the sun as a much more serious danger these days.

      • schwartzworld 3 years ago

        I think it's much more common to see people in long sleeves with heavy sunblock at the beach than it was 20 years ago.

        I think a good barometer is to look at how people dress their kids. I don't remember any kids in my youth wearing sunshirts at camp. And while my mom always sent us with sunblock, it wasnt mandatory. Lots of kids at my kids' camp come well protected from the sun.

  • 908B64B197 3 years ago

    In 2018 "obesity prevalence was [...] 21.2% among 12- to 19-year-olds." [0] according to the CDC. That's one out of 5 being obese, not just overweight. And it has more than tripled since the 70's [1]. I have to wonder if it's related.

    [0] https://www.cdc.gov/obesity/data/childhood.html

    [1] https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/hestat/obesity_child_15_16/obe...

  • cafard 3 years ago

    In the summer, I see young men running and exercising in the park shirtless. Now, some of these guys are in very good shape.

davidktr 3 years ago

The article links to results from the General Social Survey (https://www.docdroid.net/Ow9GtjA/tables-sda3-pdf#page=2). The numbers for 2014 are remarkably different from the other years, showing for example 3% for "no sex at all" vs 20-25% in all other years. That can't be right. Does anyone know more?

d12bb 3 years ago

Well, last time I checked, at least two people were needed to have sex. Makes it hard to follow this request for some…

bitlax 3 years ago

https://archive.ph/JI3jQ

eficek 3 years ago

Jeez Magdalene, you ask so politely but as one of the many young men you described as "displacing their sexual desires, relying entirely on porn or other online stimuli," I could have used some tips or something because you sure make it sound like it's easy for you

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