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A UK Minister Photoshopped the ex-PM from a rocket mission

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66 points by feurio 3 years ago · 43 comments

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mathieuh 3 years ago

And now Shapps is claiming he wasn't aware it was edited.

It really is remarkable how bad politicians' memories are. Every time they get caught out they miraculously forget everything.

  • notahacker 3 years ago

    Shapps (or his pseudonym) once had a side gig selling $497 eBooks that promised to earn you $20k in weeks and scraping software for SEO spammers, so he definitely is tech-savvy and cynical enough to at least ask someone else to Photoshop Boris out...

    He forgot about using a pseudonym and having a side business when asked too.

  • ben_w 3 years ago

    Not to defend him[0], but humans in general have fairly flawed memories and can often end up with false memories after seeing fake photos of themselves.

    [0] course he should've known, the photo is framed in a way that only works with the missing PM, and is a bad enough photoshop job that I can still see BJ's elbow.

  • pjc50 3 years ago

    > Every time they get caught out they miraculously forget everything.

    There's no cost to this, because tomorrow the media and your supporters will forget everything as well. Unless the media really want to use it against you.

  • samwillis 3 years ago

    Even if it's true that he was unaware, that just shows how bad the people he employs are. It's farcical, you are your team, if his team are crap it's because of him.

hikkan 3 years ago

Norway isn't European I guess.

mrlonglong 3 years ago

Bloody Tories!

mcv 3 years ago

Oh my god. That's straight out of Stalin's playbook. Erasing Boris Johnson the way Stalin did to Trotsky.

  • jojobas 3 years ago

    It wasn't Trotsky, it was Yezhov, the man in charge of NKVD during the worst of the purge. Fun fact: of all occupations/organizations NKVD officers were at the highest risk of a speedy trial and execution.

  • antihero 3 years ago

    I mean the tories are bastards but I don’t think Sunak is going hard with an ice pick any time soon.

  • cm2187 3 years ago

    Stalin erased Trotsky a bit more violently than we are contemplating here.

    • Am4TIfIsER0ppos 3 years ago

      There are some who would like that but I don't think many in government. Although if you include the civil service...

  • AstixAndBelix 3 years ago

    Comparing every single thing to the evils of nazism and communism is a bit too trite. I know that most people default to last century's events because they are the only ones fresh enough to have a grasp on, but deleting people from inscriptions, annals, murals, paintings, coins, etc. has been a common practice throughout history.

    Saying "this is just like what emperor Flavius did!" causes a lot less outrage than saying "this is just like what Stalin did!", even though they are both true. This is why, unless a phenomenon was exclusive to a certain ideology, I feel like constantly mentioning nazis and commies is just a rethorical tool

    • Wildgoose 3 years ago

      And has recently taken off in a big way - removing statues, replacing names and generally purging history.

      • consumer451 3 years ago

        Statues and names of military bases for example, celebrate people. As far as I am aware history is mostly doing just fine in history books and places like Wikipedia. No need to conflate these things, is there?

      • pjc50 3 years ago

        Should never have pulled down that big statue of Saddam Hussein.

      • AstixAndBelix 3 years ago

        How do you know it has taken off? When a new roman emperor took place he mobilized an incredible amount of people to replace as much stuff as possible from the previous ruler at a scale hardly comparable to what's happening today

      • SketchySeaBeast 3 years ago

        Do you have specific examples you're thinking of, specifically regarding "purging history"? My university degree is in history and I have never used statutes or building names to study, but it's hard to have a discussion when the meat of the argument is only obliquely hinted at.

    • mcv 3 years ago

      It's not like someone is building a highway and I'm saying "just like Hitler!". This is erasing recently disgraced people from photos in order to misrepresent facts.

      Although I suppose we could also say "just like Vogue!" (or whichever fashion magazine is most guilty of photoshopping people).

      • AstixAndBelix 3 years ago

        >This is erasing recently disgraced people from photos in order to misrepresent facts.

        Which has been done since forever. People in the past didn't erase others only after they were long gone. Someone could quickly fall out of favor and have many of his depiction and documents already altered in a single year.

        • mcv 3 years ago

          I don't think it's something that has always been universally common. Erasing people like that is something that mostly the Soviet Union was known for. And possibly China or other dictatorships, but it's something you mostly see in propaganda from dictatorships. It's quite unusual to see it from the UK.

          • AstixAndBelix 3 years ago

            My problem is with people using nazis and communists for cheap rethoric effect towards people who don't know history and eat it all up. If you knew that people have been erased since the time of the babylonians you wouldn't immediately compared what's happened to nazi Germany.

            It's bad that he got deleted from the photo, but that's not indicative of any particular 20th century dictatorship

            • mcv 3 years ago

              Are you telling me you did not immediately think of how people kept disappearing from Soviet photos? I think that's easily the most well-known modern example of this. It's blatantly similar.

              And if your argument that dictatorships outside the 20th century did it too, that still doesn't mean it's not something associated primarily with dictatorships. Can you name a modern democracy where people were erased like that?

              • mcv 3 years ago

                I stand corrected. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4984364/How-Hitler-... includes one example where Churchill's cigar was removed, and one where British King George VI was removed from a photo with the Canadian PM.

                Still, the majority of examples, and the most famous ones, are Stalin, followed by various other dictatorships. But this example is apparently not a first for the UK.

      • mcphage 3 years ago

        > This is erasing recently disgraced people from photos in order to misrepresent facts.

        Hitler did do that, but it's not the most notable thing that he did.

    • tgv 3 years ago

      True, but on the other hand, the people that did it are well aware of that, too. And they still do it. Although this is not Stalin's playbook, of course. Just a minor part of it.

LightG 3 years ago

My country is an international embarassment.

Someone make it stop.

Please.

throwaway4good 3 years ago

Is it not more likely that this bojo character has photoshopped himself into the photo?

  • blitzar 3 years ago

    He probably photoshopped the rocket into a photo of himself, and now we have gone full circle and removed him from it.

    • hef19898 3 years ago

      So the only thing real in the picture is the sky? I like that!

      • blitzar 3 years ago

        They photoshopped out the sky and put it in a pretty fake looking hangar.

        • hef19898 3 years ago

          Ah, a pitty... I liked the idea of a photo shopped picture in which only the sky was unaltered, when sky replacement seems to be one of the first thing a lot of people do in Photoshop.

  • _trackno5 3 years ago

    Nope, look at both pictures and you can see the one posted by the MP is altered. There are clear editing artefacts

  • lucideer 3 years ago

    His elbow remains in the photo

  • raverbashing 3 years ago

    Yes I think it's likely as well

    (People are missing the subtle humour of this post.)

  • _dain_ 3 years ago

    No

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