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‘Office Space’ movie gave Zulily engineer a blueprint for financial fraud

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47 points by abixb 3 years ago · 28 comments

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Arainach 3 years ago

>Evidence against Valdez includes notes in which he referred to the plan as the “OfficeSpace project"

Never take notes when planning crimes...

  • scottiebarnes 3 years ago

    > Never take notes when planning crimes...

    Relevant 'The Wire' clip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBdGOrcUEg8

  • baryphonic 3 years ago

    He could have at least called it the Michael Bolton project

  • ramesh31 3 years ago

    >Never take notes when planning crimes...

    The guy was clearly not very bright. This isn't some criminal mastermind big brain stuff. Any random dev with prod access could trivially execute something similar. But anyone with a brain knows that you'll be caught immediately. There's simply too many checks in the financial system to pull it off.

  • pimpampum 3 years ago

    Or use encryption!!! What a noob.

gnabgib 3 years ago

Posted so many times (9 so far).. the most active was 36pts, 13 comments[0]. Granted the fellow had a file called "OfficeSpace project", but in Office Space they're inspired by Superman (Inspired to be inspired from Office Space?)

[0]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34192427

karaterobot 3 years ago

This Superman III erasure will not stand.

adamredwoods 3 years ago

I enjoyed my time working at Zulily, the engineers are given a lot of responsibility, which can be good or bad, but I enjoyed it.

Too bad GeekWire is using the old photo, the new logo looks better.

I recognize the name of the alleged, we worked on separate teams. This should have been caught in code review, though. I have no comment to say other than that.

  • deltree7 3 years ago

    Can code review really catch this? If it is hidden under 20 levels of abstraction and obfuscation?

    • adamredwoods 3 years ago

      In ecommerce we work with money in cents, as an integer. If he was catching pennies off FP rounding errors (as in OfficeSpace), then that is an easy red flag during code review.

      But the more I think about it, he may have gotten around a code review somehow and pushed to prod (speculation).

granshaw 3 years ago

…then proceeded to lose it all on GME options - can’t make this stuff up

kylecazar 3 years ago

Also probably just skimmed wallstreetbets, considering he put it all in GameStop.

Not the most sophisticated of plans

GoToRO 3 years ago

Did he lookup "money laundering" in a dictionary?

jmclnx 3 years ago

These days, I believe it is very hard to steal fractions of pennies from transactions. Where I work, in some cases we calculate out to 3 decimals for USD due to customers "renting" services based upon various usages.

mtmail 3 years ago

Unlike in the Office Space movie it was more than just moving a few cents around. He employee ordered over 1000 items in a month (to resell?). That should ring any alarm bell already.

  • jjeaff 3 years ago

    It didn't ring alarm bells because people were aware that he was placing "test orders". They just weren't aware that he was not in fact cancelling said orders.

  • qbrass 3 years ago

    In the Office Space movie, a bug in the the software they uploaded caused it to steal much faster than it was supposed to. Which led to everyone involved panicking about getting caught.

    The stuff he ordered was part of a different thing than the 'Office Space' scam they also found. It was either an actual screw-up on his part, that he tried to cover up by reversing the charges, or a scam closer to the one a Microsoft employee tried to pull off a while back.

    https://www.ign.com/articles/microsoft-employee-steals-xbox-...

bitwize 3 years ago

Well, it worked in Superman III...

paulpauper 3 years ago

He should have just done one of those Elon Musk crypto livestream things. Would have made more or equal $ with no risk. I dunno why people try to rip off big companies like this. The Risk vs. reward is terrible. All audited and everything traced closely.

  • jjeaff 3 years ago

    My guess is that it's the small to mid-sized businesses that end up being the easiest targets. Many don't have all the same record keeping or auditing practices. I've read about scammers just sending random invoices to small businesses and getting paid. Someone did this to the tube of millions to the likes of Facebook and Google, but I guess were eventually found out.

    • fbdab103 3 years ago

      A report [0] on the Google/Facebook invoices. Such a simple idea, if they had stuck to a few $500k requests and stopped, they likely never would have been caught. As I recall (not in the linked story), one of the reasons one of the expenses was flagged was because the scammers invoiced a higher amount ($10million+) requiring additional approvals.

      [0] https://www.npr.org/2019/03/25/706715377/man-pleads-guilty-t...

      Edit: Fixed typo

malkia 3 years ago

Probably this github account - https://github.com/castroev

Teamteam16 3 years ago

Spacestriker

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