Andrew Tate reveals location, gets arrested in Twitter exchange w Greta Thunberg
twitter.comArrested in Romania, along with his brother, on rape and human trafficking charges.
Doxxed himself via a picture of a pizza box from a local Romanian pizza chain, amazing job police!
Seems mostly like they already planned to arrest him but needed some proof he was in Romania in order to be able to get a warrant… I don’t think that the police learned anything they didn’t already know from the video, just got the final piece of evidence for the judge that if they raid his home, there’s a high likelihood that they will be able to arrest.
> ... but needed some proof he was in Romania ...
I don't understand this. Doesn't a country keep records of who and when enters/exits it? Unless Andrew Tate has passports under different names, shouldn't Romanian authorities know whether he's in Romania or not?
> Doesn't a country keep records of who and when enters/exits it?
Not particularly _good_ records, particularly on exits, in many cases. And I assume Romania has borders that you can basically just walk across; most EU countries do.
Hm, that's a good point. I forgot about the free travel within the EU. Still I recall that 5 or 6 years ago, there were checks at the Romanian-Hungarian border.
After doing some research, it seems that while Romania is in the EU since 2007, it, together with Bulgaria are not yet in the Schengen Area, so there should still be a border between Romania and Hungary.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schengen_Area#Temporary_border...
But even if countries don't keep particularly __good__ records about persons passing their borders, I find it hard to believe that Romanian authorities used the video from a tweet to confirm Tate's presence in the country.
EDIT: Moreover, I've got the impression that the Tates are not the type of people to travel internationally by car. I imagined they flew in and out of Bucharest.
Yeah, I mean, it's not in Schengen, but if you're a criminal, you're probably not going to go "oh, it's not Schengen, I'd better not walk across it". I don't think it's particularly tightly controlled.
Are you suggesting that Tate was crossing the land border out of Romania clandestinely?
I guess I need to read up on him, I thought he was a grifter and a confidence man, getting rich of his social media influence. I thought all his criminal activity was limited to white-collar crime.
UPD: > ...Schengen... I don't think it's particularly tightly controlled.
I don't think that's right. I bet it's incredibly well controlled. That's pretty much the gateway to all other Schengen countries. There are very limited border controls within the Schengen Area, so I imagine the outer borders have to be secure.
I mean, he's just been arrested for, er, very much not white collar crime. He's just been detained for a further 30 days at the request of Romania's anti-organised crime prosecution unit. It would be, well, not unknown for people in that position to flee by means other than the official border crossing points.
Yes, but likely there are administrative and legal hoops to jump through to be able to access this, and the data may not be “real time” or centralised and easily searchable. Potentially this was all in progress already and then Tate saved them a bit of paperwork by proving he was in Romania.
Here’s the tweet. The pizza box appears midway in the video. https://twitter.com/Cobratate/status/1608212791009374208?s=2...
Didn't. Or didn't just on pizza box. See https://www.calmdownben.com/p/romanian-cops-did-not-find-and...
i read on twitter that they released him.
social media (and twitter in particular) has caused an absolute damage to public discourse about anything at all. i don't know that person and have zero interest in what he does. but reading his supporters and non-supporters, likewise, on twitter leaves me in awe. human trafficking is now politicized?
how did we get there?
real victims are out there, and mouthpieces are amusing themselves on twitter. i can see this posing serious challenges in the future to any agency trying to sort these things out.
How did we get here? Step by step.
Divisiveness is very, very old. As an American I trace it back to the foundation of the country, where a set of colonies bitterly divided by cultural differences agreed to put them aside against a common enemy. Even a Civil War didn't really resolve that. The culture war has shifted around but to this day falls largely on the same lines, and increasing communication gives more and more people the opportunity to prosecute it. The level of anger proceeds in lockstep with 24 hour cable news and the Internet.
Running so deep, we have a huge toolkit for finding ways to turn any event against each other. Even obvious opportunities to pull together can be cast as conspiracy, fake news, hoax, etc. as long as it blames your enemies. And with so much history of their malignance, it's easy to believe the next one.
I don't mean to just play "both sides are bad" here. I think that some people particularly enjoy the culture war and benefit from it. But the real issue is that there is nothing anyone can do to change their minds, precisely because any effort is proof of trying to harm them. The only way to fix it is for them to choose to and start a virtuous cycle instead of a vicious one. Since it has taken no steps in that direction during the half century of my existence, I do not anticipate it any time in the next half century
> i read on twitter that they released him.
One reads all sorts of things on twitter, and very occasionally they're true. Not in this case, tho.
Detained for another 30 days: https://www.rte.ie/news/world/2022/1230/1344154-andrew-tate/
I did an admittedly trivial amount of looking, but it seems like the videos surfacing right now about Andrew Tate being arrested are related to a previous arrest. As of the writing of this post, there doesn't seem to be much credible evidence that he has been released from police custody this time 'round.
I, of course, could be wrong so feel free to correct me if need be.
Can you please share the links saying he was released? I understood he was going to be arrested for 24h
Ain't future just grand?
Not sure why HN cares about Tate. He has nothing to offer this crowd.
Does not offer anything, indeed. It’s good and worth to know about it though.
Depends on the country/location, however, in some countries even among IT crowd he’s glorified, to the point where it reflected in workplace, which most of us have :)