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Finance is broken but DeFi isn't the solution

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11 points by the_jesus_villa 3 years ago · 9 comments

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the_jesus_villaOP 3 years ago

I really, really wanted to like DeFi. Banking has been a huge hassle and hurdle for my family throughout my entire life (for lots of personal reasons I can share privately if you're curious).

Yet DeFi doesn't really help at all imo. I wish all this energy went into making the system we have better, instead of trying to replace it with DeFi.

  • ETH_start 3 years ago

    Why would you want a centralized authority forcing you to do KYC so it can spy on you, and multiple layers of centralized intermediaries, over a better developed DeFi system, where no one controls you?

mattdesl 3 years ago

> That’s my gripe, man - when you login to a site with your Ethereum wallet instead of the Github login button, why? Because it’s easier? As if.

I do this on sites that support it. Spinning up a burner wallet for a site is easier than spinning up a burner gmail or temporary account.

woojoo666 3 years ago

> web3 evangelists tend to argue why the user should accept a sacrifice in quality for moral benefits like privacy or freedom

Is privacy really just a moral benefit? Though I admit that it definitely isn't a benefit that the mainstream cares about, which is unfortunate

koyanisqatsi 3 years ago

What exactly is broken about finance? Is it the fact that it has become completely disconnected from real world value or is it something else?

  • the_jesus_villaOP 3 years ago

    >fact that it has become completely disconnected from real world value

    Yes, but in this post I really mean "banking". As someone born in a rural area in a 3rd world country, I've seen how people struggle to interact successfully with the banking system. To this day, my documents are a mess but are finally in order enough.

    I would love for the promises of DeFi to happen. Cheaply send remittances to my relatives? No more navigating KYC laws that always want the particular document I don't have, and not worry about PayPal just randomly shutting off my account and taking my money?

    But DeFi doesn't really do this imo. As I put it in the post, it's like trying to solve loneliness with Omegle. It makes sense kinda but just isn't the right path forward.

    • koyanisqatsi 3 years ago

      That makes sense. I'm not familiar with PayPal policies, when do they shut down accounts for sending remittances? Is the policy listed somewhere?

      • the_jesus_villaOP 3 years ago

        I was using PayPal for this and got shut down, they never gave me a reason. I assume I just seemed too "suspicious" by some vague algorithmic standard.

        • koyanisqatsi 3 years ago

          That is unfortunate. You're probably not the first person this has happened to and won't be the last so it may be possible to file a class action lawsuit against PayPal for closing legitimate accounts and not providing a reason. If this is happening on a large enough scale then there is a business opportunity here by using DeFi techniques to make a decentralized remittance network.

          I'm not sure if there are PayPal brokers but it's probably possible to use a blockchain to verify fund transfers and keep track of trusted and untrusted brokers. You might also just be able to create a volunteer network. I don't use my PayPal account for much anyway and wouldn't mind being a broker if there were instructions for what to do.

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