Lofi Girl radio streams taken down due to copyright claim
twitter.comTake note that Lofi Girl is an music label using their stream as main advertisement for their artists. They definitely have the rights for the respective tracks.
As a regular lofigirl listener, i wish youtube dies a painful death. Their claiming/strike system is bringing so much pain to content creators.
As for now, you can also listen on https://lofigirl.bandcamp.com.
Just a theory on what happened, but sampling is almost always not fair use (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sampling_(music)#Legal_and_eth...), and I see many indie labels publishing music with sampling in them. Regardless of your opinion here, it would make YouTube in the clear.
a brief look at a few random tracks on their bandcamp site doesn't show any sampling. if they have videos that use sampling, then those videos should be taken down, not the whole channel.
I wish I had a link for you but it’s a relatively common thing to have TV shows and movies sampled in lofi tracks. I’ve heard clips from anything between “Talladega Nights” to “10 Things I Hate About You”.
Thank you kind sir. Bandcamp is actually better because of memory usage, looping and other nicities YT wants you to get the app and/or pay for. But I can't find a way to live stream like with YT on there.
Do they have a live Peertube?
Tangential, but does “copyright strikes” system on YouTube feels horrifically dystopian to anyone else?
In one way, it reads, “if you break the law enough, we’ll disable your account. Naughty naughty!” But then when you look at how the system works, almost anyone can just claim they own a copyright with absolutely no proof which has massive implications to your account whether that means you can have your account deactivated or (even more scary) you can be demonetized or have penalties (aka royalties) paid to the “original” creator.
This whole thing feels like a combination of the Salem witch trials, a social credit score, and The Hunger Games disgusted as a egalitarianism.
> In one way, it reads, “if you break the law enough, we’ll disable your account. Naughty naughty!” But then when you look at how the system works, almost anyone can just claim they own a copyright with absolutely no proof which has massive implications to your account
There's a lot more at stake than a youtube account. This is true for your ISP as well. Anyone can send DMCA notices to your ISP saying that you've violated copyright with zero evidence. If you are accused multiple times the media industry insists that your ISP must permanently cancel your account and never allow you to have service again. So far, the courts agree with them. ISPs who don't do this are subject to billions in fines.
There are around a dozen lawsuits in the works right now against ISPs who the media industry claims have failed to permanently cancel the accounts of "repeat offenders".
It's insane that we've given anyone the ability to cut someone off from the internet (many people have very few options for ISPs) over unproven accusations alone. You don't get to go in front of a judge and defend yourself. They don't have to prove anything to anyone. They said you did it, so therefore you are guilty and can be cut off from the internet. Never mind that the same companies sending out DMCA notices have a long history of sending false and inaccurate DMCA notices (sometimes out of laziness, sometimes out of incompetence, sometimes to silence criticism and hurt would be competitors).
Naturally ISPs aren't happy about this and right now, they are mostly watching to see how all this plays out in the courts, but again so far the courts are going along with it. Expect to see ISPs increasingly crack down on this to avoid being liable for billions in penalties.
The incentives today are crap. YouTube takes on a ton of liability if they get a valid takedown request but they leave it up, so the safest thing for them to do is immediately take down anything with a claim against it. This is obviously gameable by bad-faith actors.
The thing is YouTube’s takedown process _isn’t_ a DMCA one. It’s one they made up to satiate the media companies that were suing them.
An actual DMCA compliant process is much more user friendly - https://copyrightalliance.org/education/copyright-law-explai...
>The thing is YouTube’s takedown process _isn’t_ a DMCA one. It’s one they made up to satiate the media companies that were suing them.
That's the plan I think. In another ten, twenty years or so who is going to remember the law as written over the way that it has been interpreted? This has been an end-run around the law from the beginning.
Looks like YouTube has reinstated, though Google engineers apparently aren't smart enough to propagate such a change in less than 48 hours: https://twitter.com/TeamYouTube/status/1546419223466999809
It's such a good thing this is the only mistake they made, and no legitimate users have ever been taken down by this mechanism!
WTF???!! I use this everyday. I wish I downloaded it with youtube-dl or something. It helps me a lot when trying to focus and multi-task.
What is happening to Youtube? I can't even find related content on it anymore (try to watch some song or talk and all the recommendations are about some conspiracy rabbit hole it wants to take me into).
Why has no one competed with them so far in a meaningful way? You would think this would be right up Netflix's alley.
yes, youtube has slowly commited suicide for years now by removing everything that made it interesting.
I'm surprised you're mentionning conspiracy stuffs, since they've also been removed a lot.
With the direction they're taking, all amateur content will soon have completely disappeared, making it undistinguishable from an on demand TV channel.
Is it possible to build all the combinations of notes computationally, upload it to YT, and then cry of copyright violation when someone accidentally creates a match?
They haven't uploaded to YouTube, but that's kind of the idea of this project: http://allthemusic.info/