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88 points by zenull 4 years ago · 55 comments

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pandemicsoul 4 years ago

The biggest problem with these services is they never last. It's easy to set up something like this, but there are so many of these services and so few non-technical people understand the need/purpose of them, they don't get the traction required to be viable and disappear, thus perpetuating a vicious cycle for the overall "disposable email" sector as folks realize that you can't trust any of these services to stick around...

  • gruez 4 years ago

    The "disposable" in "disposable email" implies that you don't intend on keeping the address around. Under that use case, the service disappearing after a year or two doesn't cause any issues, because you don't have anything persistent attached to those emails in the first place. Besides, many (most?) other email services prevent you from recovering an email address (usually because a random address is assigned to you and there's no way to pick/recover a previous address), so you're already discouraged from using them for any persistent services.

    • itake 4 years ago

      The emails are disposable, not the service. This causes issues b/c you're constantly having to find and change providers.

      • milosmns 4 years ago

        Eh, I don't know if that's really a problem. Query "10 minute mail" in Google gives hundreds of results within a millisecond, so... you do this lookup once in 2 years and you're done? Really don't feel like it's a big deal, at least for me

        • itake 4 years ago

          Lots of websites are wise about disposable email and reject those domains. Query "10 minute mail" and you get a list of blacklisted email domains.

          The services that new or don't have much traction aren't blocked yet.

          • milosmns 4 years ago

            Yes, that's precisely why I'm querying more often than bookmarking sites. They "expire" soon so I kinda have to find replacements. Apple's situation is interesting, I don't think sites can ban Apple's iCloud completely. It may also be an opportunity for Gmail to copy the feature..

  • zinxq 4 years ago

    To be fair, Mailinator https://www.mailinator.com has been around since it's inception in 2003. It offers other services now, but the "disposable email" part is still there as it was from the start.

    • SoftTalker 4 years ago

      Mailinator addresses, and other "disposable" email service addresses, are often rejected by sites that ask for an email address to create an account.

      There's sort of a race condition between how quickly new "anonymous" email services appear and how quickly they are banned by other sites.

      • Komodai 4 years ago

        Then just use temp-mail.org, they rotate domains very frequently, they have been around for some time now as well.

    • Rebelgecko 4 years ago

      Similarly spamgourmet has been around since 2001 and other than some brief outages (around the time the founder was sadly struggling with a terminal illness and figuring out succession plans) it's doing fine.

  • wonderbore 4 years ago

    They’re disposable. The whole service is disposable. That’s the whole point.

    This isn’t a redirect to your existing email a-la-iCloud+ “Hide My Email”. You close the tab and the address is gone.

  • GekkePrutser 4 years ago

    It's good too that they tend to change because they'll soon get blocked for signups.

    Like bugmenot accounts that only last a day or so.

    • zozbot234 4 years ago

      Services tend to be blocked when they get abused by spammers. So if you want something like this to last, it would make sense to heavily leverage either plain old CAPTCHA's or the newer privacy-preserving "proofs of human presence".

  • deadalus 4 years ago

    https://boun.cr/ has been active for years and I use it regularly on shady sites.

    • amelius 4 years ago

      Do you have something similar for telephone numbers? (Often required to receive verification codes in text messages).

      • jenscow 4 years ago

        Search for "receive sms online"

        Sorry for the "lmgtfy" type of answer, but I generally do that search then pick a site at random.

        • thih9 4 years ago

          Whenever I try that, the number doesn't work. I either get an error message that the number isn't valid, or the text never arrives.

          I think I tried with it with Twitter, Instagram and Google (when they asked me for a phone number and I didn't want to give my real one); this was about two years ago. Does anyone have better results?

          • 7steps2much 4 years ago

            When it comes to big providers like them you can assume that all numbers are either used by other people already or blocked.

            If you just don't want to give out your number you could get a second one? Nowadays with eSim it should be easy to get a "pay as you go" number and only ever receive sms.

            • thih9 4 years ago

              I eventually did get a second number and was still blocked by Instagram. Perhaps it was because of earlier attempts with temp phone numbers (I didn’t use VPN). But I don’t know for sure. I gave up after that.

      • Komodai 4 years ago

        For that, I would just recommend 5sim or smspva, personally used them, pretty solid.

        As long as you expect to only use the number once then they should be fine.

  • ruste 4 years ago

    https://www.guerrillamail.com/ has been around as long as I can remember.

  • Arubis 4 years ago

    Sneakemail.com remains online 22+ years on.

  • totetsu 4 years ago

    Also they quickly get added to black lists so sites wont accept them to register an account.

  • ruffrey 4 years ago

    Mailsac had been around for 10 years.

vmoore 4 years ago

For those wondering about the domain it's a service called EU.org which allows for free domain names (since 1996!)

https://nic.eu.org/

tbrownaw 4 years ago

Sure, but how long until the sites that require an email to set up a new account add this to their list of blocked providers (or just switch to requiring a sms number like some of the bigger sites already do)?

Or ar least I'm assuming that's a primary use case for something like this.

twobitshifter 4 years ago

As someone who used Mailinator for a long time, the world can always use more of these services - what’s unfortunate is that it’s an arms race. As domains are known to be fronts for disposable emails, they just get blocked. Apple’s hide my email is great because they cannot block iCloud, and it would be great if Google or Microsoft offered similar services.

SpikeDad 4 years ago

Just to remind folks Apple provides this service for all iOS devices automatically.

gummybuns 4 years ago

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- https://wumbo.co - https://addons.mozilla.org/lt/firefox/addon/wumbo/ - https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/wumbo/edkhadeemcop...

feel free to use any of that for inspiration or reach out if u wanna bounce around any ideas

rikkipitt 4 years ago

https://www.paced.email and https://www.vend.email are two services that I developed that provide "disposable" email addresses.

Paced Email is a productivity tool with the ability to add team members, rules, etc and paces your mail into regular digests.

Vend Email is similar to Firefox Relay but has the added benefit of email forwarder transferability to other users.

charles_f 4 years ago

I wish those many disposable email service would opensource. Running my own would be the best. I built one a long time ago that was getting emails piped to but it was cpanel and by no means a generic email service I could deploy anywhere

threecoins 4 years ago

If you are a fastmail user, they provide a similar option. You can create masked email on @fastmail.com that redirect to your inbox and then delete it when you are done.

teeray 4 years ago

Anyone have a good self-hosted version of this? I’d like disposable email addresses that won’t get added to block lists.

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