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76 points by chdaniel 4 years ago · 15 comments

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yrgulation 4 years ago

I am allocating a month’s invoice to helping ukranian civilians (12k gbp). I am spreading it in before and after - right now sending baby food and clothes at the border, directly and via charities, and after that i will try and help with reconstruction funds in areas worst hit. I am thinking agricultural tools and anything to help them help themselves.

gameswithgo 4 years ago

Is there any legitimate way to fund armament as well?

  • terafo 4 years ago

    Yes, there is. National Bank of Ukraine opened special fundraising account to support Ukrainian army.

    https://bank.gov.ua/en/news/all/natsionalniy-bank-vidkriv-sp...

  • scandox 4 years ago

    https://savelife.in.ua/en/donate/

    Was sent to me by a Ukrainian colleague that I would trust. Ideally you have to send using direct transfer I think. The details for that are on that same page.

  • numpad0 4 years ago

    Cost of a single Javelin Missile: $174,000(FY19. Launcher device is 126k extra)

    • terafo 4 years ago

      That money is likely to be used for immediate expenses of army like salaries, fuel sandbags and anything that can be useful in fighting. Javelins are provided by other countries for free.

  • pastacacioepepe 4 years ago

    This shouldn't be allowed, especially here.

    • giantg2 4 years ago

      Why shouldn't it be allowed in general? I do understand that on HN it might be too political.

      • pastacacioepepe 4 years ago

        Beside the political aspect of it, which is fine by me, this is actively meddling in foreign conflicts. One thing is to express support for one side, but I believe there are other better channels to get involved militarly.

        Edit: also if our governments cared as much as keep telling us they do, they would take care of funding ukraine themselves. We wouldn't still be relying on private initiative, which sounds ridicolous to me.

        • giantg2 4 years ago

          The bulk of it is governmental. For example, 300 javelin missiles were sent ($24M), and that's only part of one shipment of arms from the US.

          I don't know how much the private funding will help. Maybe it will fill in the gaps for small items that have not been sent over.

          "actively meddling in foreign conflicts"

          Why is that a bad thing?

          "also if our governments cared as much as keep telling us they do"

          I do agree that it seems many countries are mostly just talk. It seems just sending arms shipments is all they're willing to do.

    • scandox 4 years ago

      The countries of which many of us are taxpayers are actively funding their military.

midislack 4 years ago

After learning how much graft and corruption has reached from the USA to the Ukraine and back again, I'm sure I don't want to help. We don't have a single congress person whose kid isn't on some Ukrainian gas company board.

pastacacioepepe 4 years ago

Help the civilians, don't help the military as it's only going to generate further violence and death. You won't make any difference in the conflict anyway.

If you really care about civilian's lives, you should hope for the invasion to end as quickly as possible, not to drag along in the cities streets for weeks. There is no point in dragging the resistance for long as Ukraine has no chance of winning and the guerrilla will hit civilians hard.

  • A_non_e-moose 4 years ago

    Appeasement prolongs suffering and death.

    Violence is the last resort for peaceful nations to stop further, more brutal violence of others.

    Russia is making it harder and harder, reducing available options to resolve that war.

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