Sublime Text 4 (Build 4126)

Yep, me too. I bought ST2, got the free upgrade to ST3, and recently paid for ST4. I install it across my Windows and Mac computers and it’s still great. It’s my go to text editor for years now.

Throwing this out here since you mentioned it - does anyone else get tons of hangups and temporary frozen windows using Sublime with unsaved files? I’ve always had this on a bunch of different Macs and some Linux machines. I don’t like working around by saving either, sometimes I just want a scratchpad.

> The experience on Linux, OSX, and Windows is the same

You and I have very different definitions of “same”.

If the keyboard shortcuts where just “use ctr instead of command” I’d probably agree with you, but the shortcuts are changed dramatically between the 3 systems.

For example, replace uses F on Mac, but H on windows.

Same here, even if I seldom use it. Otherwise all these nice editors will just die, and their authors also have bills to pay.

UltraEdit is very much what you describe. But the column mode is much better IMHO.

Except for handling extremely large files, VSCode does all of that.

Daily driving to do what type of work exactly?

I've been using VS Code for years now, and while it is measurably slower (I still use sublime to handle ad-hoc grepping log files as code just won't handle that, and scrollable, highlighting and multicursor is MUCH better than smacking bash pipes together), the batteries included "It just works" approach of code means I don't really see a reason to head back.

Maybe it's changed since the sublime 2/3 days, but the packages ecosystem always felt a bit unpolished and anemic.

Vim with my plugins in the terminal is noticeably faster than vanilla sublime for me. Sublime feels like Vim does over a good SSH connection. Its definitely good, but whatever magic terminal emulators use is definitely faster.

Please fix the issue on code folding being based on indentation and not syntax. People regularly write on this issue and it's still not fixed.

That's the only thing that stands between me and buying ST.

Any plan to add support for Remote Development, similar to what VS Code and Jetbrains Gateway offer?

Any plan on developing a database tool? I think it would be a great complement to Sublime Text and Sublime Merge.

I believe Sublime HQ could really bring something in this space, because there are some good existing ones but none are great. Sublime DB could be great :)

Have you had any thoughts about how to improve the indentation engine ST uses to handle the common "switch"/"case" statement style? As I understand, it would mainly require a way to unindent 2 levels at once when typing the closing brace (or just getting it to match the open brace line/position) and for the first `case` to not unindent, just the later ones (which to be fair, may already be possible with some creative meta scoping and tmPreferences fun, though perhaps just not easy to maintain).

e.g.

switch (something) {

    case one:

        return;

    case two:

        foo();

        break;

}

Pretty sure you're the best thing to happen to ST since Will joined the team :)

What's your test suite like? Whenever something is regressed in a dev build, do you try to cover it with tests? Or are the UI side of things not tested in an automated fashion?

What are the plans for matching VSCode's useful features, like the one whereby all syntaxes can inject themselves into Markdown fenced code blocks etc?

It'd be great to see some better SQL syntax highlighting support - I saw a community effort on the Packages repo aiming to address this. Will there be a way to switch "active" sql dialect? Or configure it per project?

I'm a huge fan. I've used sublime pretty much since the beginning of my career (switched over after emacs wrecked my hands a few months in). I've switched over to Intellij for java dev because its built in handling of things like going to definitions (cmd+click on my machine) and being able to swipe back to previous locations in the code, as if I were in a browser. Are these features supported in sublime, and if not, are there plans to add them? These navigation features alone would have me back over to sublime, today.

The lsp typescript package is substantially slower when finding completions than vs code typescript. Even though they are running the same typescript server I imagine. Any ideas why?

In v4 right now the definitions from packages do not expand automatically, and for ruby/rails, if you type “def” and press Tab, it will select whatever Sublime thinks matches better the pattern def*, and to make function wrapper macro work, I have to just type “d”, then press Tab, it will highlight “def”, then I press Tab again, and only then the macro expands.

In v3 I can type “def”, hit Tab and it works right away.

Are you considering adding the option to change auto-compete behavior to what was in version 3?

Sublime is one of my favorite software - Great UX, super fast, stable and bug free.

Thanks for listening and fixing the issue I've requested (handling files renames/deletes outside Sublime).

The only thing I'd like improved would be syntax-aware code folding, and folding support for Markdown files.

What would you say ST's main weakness is right now, and (how) do SublimeHQ plan to address it?

My question is, how did you make it run exactly the same on all platforms (Windows, macOS, and Linux). No other cross-platform software works as seamless like this.

Any plans for native WSL integration similar to VS Code?

I'd love to know when we can move the sidebar to the right side :)

> After a decade of using it, the keyboard shortcuts are also hardwired into my soul

That used to be my reason for not using VSCode, but then I started using this: https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=ms-vscod...

That's exactly why I still use Sublime3 on my 10 year old, Win7 laptop. Sublime3 works like a charm. If I didn't mind a "slow" tool, I would use VScode instead.

OpenGL rendering is only enabled by default on macOS. Perhaps you don't have it enabled?

What did it use prior to opengl? Is there a blog o anything that talks about that move?

Sublime is still the best by far if you need to edit a gigabyte large json file or something massive like that.

I agree.

I know new engine is supposed to speed up rendering, but on my linux boxes, everything feels slightly slower than before.

Not a big deal for an IDE or IDE light, but for what I use sublime for (quick text editing), it's a disappointing change.

My general-purpose text editor (and has been, since last century) is BBEdit, but Sublime is also excellent (It handles extra-large text files better, so I use it for them). I use BBEdit because of "muscle memory." TextMate was also a big one, but I never got into it.

VSCode is excellent, but I don't think that I do enough of the kind of coding that VSCode is optimized for, to make it worth it.

Interesting enough this big or feature is on Windows as well. For some reason Sublime always opens / switches to first desktop no matter what. Really drives me insane.

There are no restrictions, and you're free to evaluate the software for however long you need.

You're expected to purchase a license if you continue to use the software.

They're just asking nicely instead of crippling their software after an arbitrary time limit.

I personally favor it because I find it abhorrent to load a bloated electron application to do... text editing, but I also wanted to have some of the niceties of a more modern editor. This is why I am giving it a try (and, so far, liking it).

sublime has had ssh development for many years

I suggest submitting a bug report, under the menu: Help > Report a Bug

It's a paid product with a team who need to earn a living wage. It's not like VS Code where the team is bankrolled by a big organisation making its money on other proprietary products.

In light of the above, it makes sense for it to be proprietary and closed source.

Were it open source, people could fork it and distribute it freely, with no remuneration going back to the developers. I doubt the developers could offer any other incentive such as support to make up the shortfall.

"Source available" licences where the user is prohibited from providing the software to others doesn't meet the FSF's definition of freedom, so even that wouldn't please everyone.

As a software developer I prefer to pay for my text editor.

As one of the people supporting it’s continuing existence, I think there will be more focus on what I need. For open source projects, the focus will be (and should be) on what the people putting in the time and money need.

There’s considerable overhead (in terms of optimizing workflows) to switching editors too, so just because an editor is good for today doesn’t mean it will be good tomorrow. Not that proprietary editors can’t change in a way negative for me. I just figure it’s less likely and, over time, will happen less often.

Of course, I could have the perfect editor by doing my own, but it’s orders of magnitudes less effort to pay someone $x. (Personally, I think sublime should go to a subscription model. Pay per release encourages feature bloat, which I do not want in a text editor.)

I use Sublime as my primary editor.

It's just so much faster than every other GUI editor, even VSCode which is "tolerable". I can open multi-gigabyte XML files without bringing my computer to its knees. The extension ecosystem is pretty weak compared to VSCode but it does what I need. And something is just better about the way Sublime renders text. It's easier on the eyes. And the multi-line / multi-cursor editing flow is better.

I still pull out other editors if I need some advanced refactoring or debugging feature but if I can avoid it, I do.

As of writing there is no disclosure of any particular license on their website for sublime text.

I must have overlooked this. While most of my programming is over ssh with vim, I’ve very much enjoyed Sublime on my own systems. Minimalism and unobtrusiveness has been very appealing to me. Free software is more important, though, so perhaps it’s back to vim, then.

I wish that the Xi editor was maintained more efficiently than it is.

Are you aware of good IDE’s besides vim and emacs? What do you use? I love vim but sometimes I just want something “friendlier” for a change.