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Who Was ZYZZ?

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11 points by Epitom3 4 years ago · 5 comments

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danlugo92 4 years ago

For those not familiar with bodybuilding, there's 2 metrics in grading someone's musculature:

- Size (pretty much self explanatory) - Insertions

Insertions is pretty much the shape and placement of muscles, some people have their biceps higher up in their arms, some lower down. Some people have mis-aligned abs some have perfect abs.

Zyzz, though nowhere near of being the biggest, had what most would call perfect or very aesthetic insertions.

His muscles' shape and placements were closer to some kind of perfect anime character than that of the average bodybuilder / gym goer.

This is one of the reasons, along with his personality, why he got so famous.

Maursault 4 years ago

I am quite hesitant to post, not wishing to offend. I do see positivity in healthy activity.

The documentary touches on mental illness, but it is needlessly vague, as anyone familiar with the subject's mental illness would have recognized it within a couple minutes of watching, at most, confirmed at the mention towards the end of the subject's deep anxiety. I suspect it is more common among body builders than the general population, as the culture seems to encourage it.

The mental illness, once thought to be uncommon, has an accurate, poetic, yet unfortunate name, one perceived to be pugilistic. It affects successful individuals, football quarterbacks, captains of industry, and presidents. Better it was called "mental illness x452" or something harmless, but instead it is called narcissistic personality disorder. Other than the deep anxiety, NPD itself hardly affects the sufferer except through how it affects others in the life of the subject, and from social feedback, hurt leads to hurt. One doesn't need to be a narcissist to be confident, but there is such a thing as overconfidence, arrogance.

It is tragic, in the original sense of the word, that Zyzz died so young. It is not explicitly stated, but I suspect heart failure could have been due to an enlarged heart, which is not all that uncommon among body builders. My understanding is it occurs due to focusing on anaerobic exercise, which weight lifting is, and not also or not executing enough aerobic exercise, like swimming, running and calisthenics. As the heart gets larger, the heart chambers get smaller, pumping less blood and less oxygen, in the right circumstance leading to heart failure and death.

  • deathclassic 4 years ago

    > My understanding is it occurs due to focusing on anaerobic exercise, which weight lifting is, and not also or not executing enough aerobic exercise, like swimming, running and calisthenics. As the heart gets larger, the heart chambers get smaller, pumping less blood and less oxygen, in the right circumstance leading to heart failure and death.

    Zyzz is believed to have had a pee-existing heart condition, and used some fairly aggressive steroid cycles that would contribute to heart failure at an early age. Weight training on it's own usually isn't enough to cause this issues, and in general resistance training extends your lifespan and cardiovascular health, in addition to supporting better body composition. One can even reduce the risk involved in using PEDs if you take care to closely monitor a variety of health metrics and biomarkers to judge the risks involved.

    Here's a list of all the stuff you should look into if you're thinking of doing something like this:

    https://vigoroussteve.com/medical-screening-required-before-...

DoItToMe81 4 years ago

Zyzz was a man with many problems, who swapped out his gaming addiction for an addiction to attention and hard drugs, which would ultimately lead him to aggravate his (unknown to him) heart condition with steroids and die. He definitely is not a man to be looked up to.

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