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18 points by auiya 4 years ago · 6 comments

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rgovostes 4 years ago

Dupe: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28291768

You can also just disable the battery performance optimization setting, but you could occasionally experience sudden loss of power with an old battery.

  • floatingatoll 4 years ago

    Enabling this setting can result in your iPhone hard-crashing during high-draw workloads (extreme CPU usage, very poor cellular connection, etc), as the power delivered by the battery becomes unreliable, causing the hardware to abort/panic when it drops low enough at the wrong time.

    It's like intentionally buying a UPS that powers itself off any time you encode video and build a kernel at the same time, only on the device that's maybe holding your transit card and lets you call 911 emergency if you need to.

    Maybe don't check that box. Or do, but do so knowing the risk. (Including the cost of replacing the device if the undervolting eventually burns it out, since you chose not to repair it when warned).

    • Crosseye_Jack 4 years ago

      > Including the cost of replacing the device if the undervolting eventually burns it out, since you chose not to repair it when warned

      Damage would be minimal if any at all for your avg user as pretty much everything comes with brownout protection these days. But you are not warned to repair the device when these events happen. Heck before the option to disable this became available everything was silent to the user. Personally I would call the IOS message a Notice over a Warning.

      This option doesn’t prevent it from ever happening, but if the cpu restarts because of a brownout then the feature is enabled. Now the OS is more explicit the “warning” isn’t about damaging the device but about the device restarting on its own.

      The argument about it holding your transit card and allows emergency services is a bit pointless. Stuff falls out of people wallets all the time, like cash and transit cards, people drain their battery on their phone all the time without considering “maybe I’ll have to use this later” even on healthy batteries.

      I also wouldn't compare it to purposely buying a UPS that fails when encoding while compiling either, because the battery was fine (baring the 6s battery, but it was ok, just died quicker than would be expected) on the day of purchase and you would be able to “encode and compile” at the same time, what it would be like is buying a UPS that after a couple of years might not be able to always provide UPS backup if the power dipped while you were doing demanding work (In my case I could still listen to streaming music via wired headphones, just "only" when the battery was above 50% without restarts). The UPS warning you about such things, and the UPS auto telling the computer it’s connected to to slow down if it failed to prevent the connected PC from browning out during such workloads. (The phone re-enables the mode after brownouts, but tells you it has so you can turn it off again).

      When my battery was failing in my old phone, the only time it would restart is when I was listening to streaming music via wired headphones, if I turned down the volume or used Bluetooth it was fine. (though YMMV) calls were fine, what finally pushed me to replace the battery wasn’t the restarts but the inability for fuel gauge to correctly report the remaining battery which could mean even with battery performance enabled I was left without access to my wallet stored on my phone because 10 mins ago the phone said 50% and now it’s reporting 3% (Due to the battery voltage curve no longer performing to the curve the fuel gauge was expecting with the curve dropping much quicker then a healthly battery would).

      My point is we are often told risks, understand they exist and choose not to become overly cautious about said risks, most people choose not to carry battery packs on the off chance their can’t recharge our phones as expected and might need to use it, and those are on "healthy" batteries. (When I worked in a bar we would have a selection chargers and then battery banks because a rarely a shift would go by without someone asking where the power outlets were or if we had a charger for their phone, so it because a good customer service pratice to just have them on hand. The reason we shifted to power banks over charges was a) they basically became cheaper then chargers b) we had more seats then power outlets and they were in places customers would find annoying as they were placed out of sight so if you handed a customer a charger they would prob have to change seats to use it)

      It just came across as a little scaremongering that’s all.

      • floatingatoll 4 years ago

        Risk management and considering possible risks and their likelihoods is generally always viewed as scaremongering by those who don't agree that the risks are worth considering. My intent is to make clear the potential risks, so that people are making a more informed choice than just "my phone might run out of battery early" (which is the most obvious risk, and the least interesting one). I can't make this decision on behalf of others, but I can absolutely highlight potential outcomes they may have failed to consider, even if I expect most of them will then reject those outcomes.

        I also think if you offered people a button that extended battery life by 50%, they'd accept a third less performance from their phones in a heartbeat. Certainly I know I use low power mode all the time, even with a full battery, just because performance is the least interesting criteria for my mobile phone usage (as it has no effect whatsoever on my communication apps). That's why I'm so careful to lay out the risks as I view them of opting in to performance over reliability. Yes, they might be slim-to-none risks, but they're avoidable risks, and there's a large set of people who prioritize lowest-risk over highest-performance.

  • Crosseye_Jack 4 years ago

    > disable the battery performance optimization setting

    If you can't find the option to disable the battery performance optimization setting (Settings -> Battery -> Battery Health) its because your iPhone has yet to have an issue with peak current from the battery so is currently running as normal.

    The option to disable battery performance only becomes avaliable once such an event has happened.

threshold 4 years ago

The speedup is marginal and hardly perceivable. This theory Apple is slowing older phones to sell new models is simply untrue. On the other hand I challenge anyone to show me a perceivable difference between a 60 and 100Hz display. I think it just wastes energy. After all, if Apple didn’t waste that additional power budget from dropping a process node, then the device might last twice as long and battery aging wouldn’t be an incentive to buy a new phone anymore. Guess everyone missed that trick

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