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Big Oil’s lies about climate change–a climate scientist’s take

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39 points by bentaber 4 years ago · 9 comments

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KozmoNau7 4 years ago

Absolutely on the nose and a fair assessment.

Fossil fuel executives are criminals, their crimes are global in scope, affecting the entirety of the biosphere.

Unfortunately our legal systems are woefully unprepared for crimes of this magnitude, scale and impact. These people should be tried like the worst war criminals, and even that would be mild. They have done irreversible damage and quite possibly doomed the future of human civilization.

  • gccs 4 years ago

    Do you support Ecofascism?

    • sudosysgen 4 years ago

      What a weird and stupid question.

      Ecofascism is not implied at all by their comment and is very far from required to fix these issues.

      • KozmoNau7 4 years ago

        Every single time I express the opinion that these global scale criminals be brought to justice, this happens.

        Cue the trolls with hot takes. Either they're ignorant or they're too invested in the current fossil fuel status quo, and fear change.

loki49152 4 years ago

Big Oil didn't "lie" about climate change any more than the people who think sentient dinosaurs live in Hollow Earth "lied" about the way to get there.

The global warming theories they were presented as a result of fossil fuel burning fall into to "not even wrong" category of pseudoscience. CO2 doesn't cover the Earth, causing warming like a blanket. That was the theory they were given. It's not even wrong. It means nothing. And they debated it, decided it was meaningless, and moved on.

The criminals in this are the people who continue to push global totalitarian rule to fix a fake crisis. There is no climate emergency. What we're seeing now is the 100-year global water cycle oscillation. That's it. The only difference is that this time we're able to observe the environment on a global scale.

  • sudosysgen 4 years ago

    What is this drivel?

    The first global warming theory was by Svante Arrhenius, one of the greatest chemists in history, and was far from meaningless.

    It's very simple, CO2 is a radiative chemical, and it's presence in the atmosphere decreases the total albedo of the Earth, because radiative gasses will emit back 50% of all the radiation that they absorb towards the earth, with is then either again turned into heat or leaves or is again absorbed by greenhouse gases.

    In the end, CO2 decreases global albedo and decreases surface radiative efficiency thus leading to higher temperatures.

    There is no debate here. This is a combination of basic optics and basic chemistry that was figured out over a hundred years ago, the only thing that was left to know was the extent, which is what these companies hid.

    You can very simply make home experiments to replicate this at home, it's really a high school level concept and there is no debate to be had at all, it's very far from meaningless.

  • LorenPechtel 4 years ago

    The greenhouse effect is bunk?

    If it weren't for the 33C of warming we get from it already the Earth would be uninhabitable and thus you wouldn't be saying that.

  • gccs 4 years ago

    This is a well articulated hot take. I appreciate it.

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