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A new way to visualize General Relativity

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8 points by edran 5 years ago · 8 comments

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ohiovr 5 years ago

This is definitely the smartest video I've seen in years, perhaps ever.

Questions I have: If the apple were traveling back in time would it essentially be falling away from the earth instead of falling into it? Would traveling forwards in time like George did in The Time Machine 1960 film (or the unnamed protagonist of the book), would essentially get crushed by ramming himself into the earth? I like these notions because it helps relieve me of grandfather paradoxes of time travel and make me dream of travel to the stars without having to forever say goodbye. Also like the fact that it doesn't require an extra incomprehensible dimension like in the case of warp bubbles.

  • jfengel 5 years ago

    Yes, an object moving backwards in time would fall upwards.

    An object moving forwards in time faster than the speed of light would crush everything, not just itself into the earth. Its energy would go to infinity. That's why "warp bubbles" always require exotic matter with negative energy. Negative energy does a lot of things that run counter to how we expect spacetime to behave, which is what leads us to think that it probably doesn't exist (or we'd have observed it by now).

    • ohiovr 5 years ago

      Wouldn't the rate of time reversal play a part in to the pressure exerted to the ground? If time were going at 1 second per second forwards we experience an acceleration of 9.8 meters per second per second, if we went 2 seconds per second would we experience an acceleration of 19.6 meters per second per second?

      • jfengel 5 years ago

        You might, depending on what "rate" meant.

        The reverse case is a simple matter of swapping the T coordinate, t->-t, for the whole universe. Making a local version of it, such that you're going "faster" than the rest of the universe, leaves a boundary condition whose properties are undefined.

karmakaze 5 years ago

I don't know if I've seen this video before, but the way it describes and animates the concepts is the best one yet.

I have two thoughts that I haven't really seen discussed:

1. c isn't a limiting speed, it's the only speed through spacetime. Is there anything that isn't traveling at c through spacetime?

2. If everything is traveling at c through spacetime, then the all the spacetime dimensions are not in fact independent, so we live in 3 dimensions of spacetime. Given that why do we doubt or debate a holographic view of the universe? It's saying we live in 2D space and 1 time which is an interpretation of living in 3D spacetime.

  • jfengel 5 years ago

    1. You're correct. It's most often phrased in terms of a spacetime interval, ds^2=dx^2-cdt^2, which is the "true", observer-independent distance between two events. You can divide by dt and rearrange to get a constant velocity c through spacetime. A different rearrangement lets you derive the gamma term from special relativity.

    2. The dimensions are still independent. There are a total of five terms in the equation I just gave: ds (spacetime interval), dt (time), and dx (which is the three terms of space). You can express any one in terms of the others, leaving you with four independent variables.

    The holographic view is a different phenomenon, derived from a basic integration of QM with GR (semiclassical gravity). It relies on the way black holes are complete information traps, so that only the surface area (and not the volume) are meaningful. (All of the information in it has to pass through the surface and nothing inside matters.) It also requires that energy be quantized; otherwise you get the dimension back via the infinite degrees of freedom of each particle.

    So yes, you do get 3D spacetime, but only by completely rearranging everything. It doesn't pop directly out of general relativity. GR still requires 4 numbers to place any event.

    • karmakaze 5 years ago

      Thanks for the short explanation that I can look further into. After rethinking it, it makes sense.

      Could it be handwavingly said that a single observer only experiences spacetime in 3D?

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