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Rare 'half-male, half-female' cardinal photographed in Pennsylvania

bbc.com

152 points by mrmcd 5 years ago · 95 comments

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rossdavidh 5 years ago

"At first Mr Hill wondered if the bird was leucistic - a term that means the specimen would have a loss of pigmentation in its feathers, but would not be half-female, half-male.

But after seeing mobile phone pictures, he suspected it had what is called bilateral gynandromorphism, which is when a bird would have both a functioning ovary and a functioning single testis."

So, uh, it would have been interesting if they had mentioned WHY the ornithologist thought it was gynandromorphic rather than leucistic? I'm not an ornithologist but it seems like a pigment mutation is a simpler explanation...

  • souprock 5 years ago

    Yep. Unless you check the gonads and the DNA on both sides, any explanation will be uncertain.

    I note that birds use the WZ sex system, which is like the opposite of the mammalian XY sex system. Males are ZZ. Selective silencing of genes on the Z chromosome for dosage compensation could cause spacial variation across the body. We see something like this in the XY sex system with Barr bodies, leading to coloration differences such as those of the calico cat.

    It's also possible to have a plain old male-male chimera, or a plain old mutation, with the cells in one part failing to produce the proper color.

  • sp332 5 years ago

    Leucistic cardinals don't just look like female cardinals. https://lostpineslife.com/leucistic-northern-cardinal-winter...

  • elmomle 5 years ago

    I suspect it had to do with sex-associated traits were split down the middle. I'm only an amateur, but I can see that the right side has a male's long tail feathers while the left side does not. I imagine there are other details that would be apparent to an expert.

  • _cloudkate 5 years ago

    Came here to say something similar. It seems fairly obvious (to an amateur like me, I guess) that the lack of color on one side would simply be from a pigmentation issue. But the description of the event by the photographer as a "once-in-a-lifetime, one-in-a-million encounter" makes it seem like there's a very clear reason he narrowed out pigmentation.

NDizzle 5 years ago

There were two giant northern cardinals "playing" (who knows) in my front yard yesterday morning. This was right after the snow started melting, so their bright red coloring really stood out.

Maybe it's me getting old, but it's nice to see things like that every now and then.

  • Fellshard 5 years ago

    Having grown up in an area without cardinals, I'm delighted to now live somewhere that has a few of them about in winter. There's a mated pair that keep pretty close together around our house, and they're a delight to watch together.

    • pottertheotter 5 years ago

      I grew up in Silicon Valley and had never seen a cardinal in the wild until a couple years ago. Currently in the Midwest and see them in my yard and I love them. My home office has a bay window and there is a bush that backs up to part of it, so I can look into the bush. The cardinals love to go in it and I can watch them from my desk. It really is a delight.

      I also love goldfinches. I had a bird feeder that only they can eat from and had so much fun watching them. Plus it made it so I can instantly recognize their calls.

      And the tufted titmouse is the cutest regular I see.

      • mprovost 5 years ago

        I always assumed that they lived in Silicon Valley because the sports teams from Stanford are called "Cardinal". But I just looked it up and they're named after the colour, not the bird.

  • Cthulhu_ 5 years ago

    Having some activity in your back yard is definitely worth it, and there's so many people that don't have that because they (have to) live somewhere that's densely urbanized.

    I had a very bland back yard (green ivies as walls, some other evergreen ground covering), but my girlfriend moved in two years ago and she's a gardener. We've got a diversity of plants now, the soil is alive again, and there's a popular bird feeder, regularly refilled, hanging on the shed now. We sometimes get a dozen birds flitting about there, who then get interrupted by a pair of magpies.

    But, this whole neighbourhood I live in (very middle class, I'm at the outer edge) has been designed to allow for nature, with lots of semi-wild green spaces dotted around and lots of waterways.

  • CryptoPunk 5 years ago

    We truly are blessed to live in a world with such wonders.

aeturnum 5 years ago

I think it's lovely how accessible high quality photographic equipment has become. Naturalism is much easier when it's not just the "professionals" who have access to high-quality telephoto equipment. These clear, detailed photographs were taken in a rush!

Technology is so good that even entry level cameras have sensors that put professional camera sensors from fifteen years ago to shame. It's easy to feel like we are drowning in lazy photography, but the same technology makes things like this possible.

derefr 5 years ago

So, in what other species can "bilateral gynandromorphism" occur? I'm not having much success googling this.

Also, is this just a specific type of genetic mosaicism? I've heard of humans with mosaic DNA (sometimes showing up as patches of alternative skin/hair coloration, etc.); but for some reason I've never heard of humans with mosaic DNA of two different chromosomal sexes.

  • buildbot 5 years ago

    I believe humans actually, I just stumbled upon this infographic today : https://static.scientificamerican.com/sciam/cache/file/164FE...

  • Karawebnetwork 5 years ago

    I don't have any sources for that but I have an anecdotal story.

    While I was volunteering in a support group for transgender people, I once spoke to a woman who had a lot of complex issues with her hormone replacement therapy.

    She was on a mix of medication that I had never seen before and I got worried that her health provider was prescribing an incorrect treatment.

    This got me to ask questions I would never ask usually out of worry.

    She told me that the reason that her medication was not the usual treatment is that she had a condition in which different parts of her bodies had different chromosomes. She told the exact name of the condition at the time but I did not write it down. I do remember the word "chimerism" being said during this conversation.

    From experience, stories about weird conditions said by trans people are almost always true. She seemed very sincere about her struggles.

  • auganov 5 years ago

    AFAIK gynandromorphism doesn't happen in mammals because sexual development is more centralized. Half of your body could have cells of a different sex but it wouldn't matter because organs responsible for sexual development will still effectively turn out one way. In other species each side of the body will develop quite differently because different cells is all it takes.

    Tons of different human mosaics have been observed but it usually doesn't cause anything interesting.

    Having different hair would imply chimerism - having two different sets of DNA. With mosaicism you start from one set of DNA but it may not duplicate the usual way.

  • eyelidlessness 5 years ago

    Most if not all species with biological sex presentation. Binary sex characteristics are an abstraction and extend beyond a specific set of chromosomes (which also present more non-binary configurations). Most humans and other sexed animals bunch up on one side or the other but it’s still a convenience rather than an either/or fact.

  • aspaceman 5 years ago

    You might find more luck with the term “intersex” or in more historical sources, hermaphroditism.

    From the wiki for mosaic DNA:

    > In rare cases, intersex conditions can be caused by mosaicism where some cells in the body have XX and others XY chromosomes (46, XX/XY).[12][13] In the fruit fly Drosophila melanogaster, where a fly possessing two X chromosomes is a female and a fly possessing a single X chromosome is a sterile male, a loss of an X chromosome early in embryonic development can result in sexual mosaics, or gynandromorphs.

    > An example of this is one of the milder forms of Klinefelter syndrome, called 46,XY/47,XXY mosaic wherein some of the patient's cells contain XY chromosomes, and some contain XXY chromosomes.

    So yes. Looks like it occurs in humans enough to be a big area of study for intersex understanding. There’s a lot of research on sex in this area, but it’s hard to dig through. (And a recommendation for the game “House of Fata Morgana” if you’d like a fictional telling of this history).

    • swebs 5 years ago

      >You might find more luck with the term “intersex” or in more historical sources, hermaphroditism.

      Not exactly. Intersex only refers to hermaphroditism in humans, mainly for political reasons. In all other species, its still called hermaphroditism.

  • mod 5 years ago

    > Not much is known about the unusual phenomenon, but this sexual split has been reported among birds, reptiles, butterflies and crustaceans.

    From an article linked in another comment: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/09/science/cardinal-sex-gend...

  • rriepe 5 years ago

    Try lobsters.

spoonjim 5 years ago

I thought this was a Catholic cardinal when I first read it and I was like o_O

brandonmenc 5 years ago

Another one?

I'm originally from that part of the country, and I swear my mom sends me a story like this every couple of years.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/09/science/cardinal-sex-gend...

pcurve 5 years ago

A different cardinal with the same condition, but with more distinct coloring.

Half white, half colored https://www.wtxl.com/news/local-news/water-cooler/northern-c...

really interesting!

shrimp_emoji 5 years ago

The avian Vivec[0]/Ardhanarishvara[1]

0: https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Vivec

1: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ardhanarishvara

spodek 5 years ago

Hard not to wonder if the endocrine disrupting chemicals we haven't banned but are changing sexes of many species, likely including ourselves, contributed.

jzer0cool 5 years ago

Anyone during childhood have to study a particular state? I was given Pennsylvania in grade school. Basically a poster everyone does about state birds, flowers.

All I remember about this poster which I had forgotten about until now is the state bird, cardinal. I think it is also the only red bird of this size?

  • jhauris 5 years ago

    The state bird of Pennsylvania is the Ruffed Grouse. The Cardinal is the state bird of a different Commonwealth: Virginia.

rsj_hn 5 years ago

Someone needs to run high res pics of this through one of the bird recognition phone apps

jl6 5 years ago

Could such a creature reproduce with itself and pass the trait onto its offspring, thereby unevolving sexual reproduction?

teknover 5 years ago

My cat that I adopted is a hermaphrodite. I am wondering myself how rare it is, or where I might learn more.

nayuki 5 years ago

First thought: The red mascot of Angry Birds.

TedShiller 5 years ago

diverse birds

spicyramen 5 years ago

He/she

1-6 5 years ago

Darn chemtrails changing cardinals (sarcasm)

anoncow 5 years ago

Reading this title made me feel like I was in the Alba universe.

(Alba is a heart-warming, pro-nature and fun Apple arcade game.)

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