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Leaf-cutter ants have rocky crystal armor, never before seen in insects

nationalgeographic.com

253 points by kul 5 years ago · 70 comments

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andai 5 years ago

The article describes the microscopic plating but doesn't show it. Here's a picture!

http://cdn.sci-news.com/images/enlarge8/image_9093_2e-Acromy...

Source: http://www.sci-news.com/biology/acromyrmex-echinatior-biomin...

xeeeeeeeeeeenu 5 years ago

Another interesting animal, an iron snail: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scaly-foot_snail

29athrowaway 5 years ago

A mantis shrimp hits as hard as a 22 caliber bullet and can break reinforced glass. The hit of a mantis shrimp generates cavitation sonoluminiscence upon impact.

The pistol shrimp also uses cavitation sonoluminiscence. Its claw creates a bubble that upon collapse reaches 7,700 °C (2,200 °C hotter than the sun).

Researchers created a larger, 3d printed version of the claw that creates the same effect. https://tees.tamu.edu/news/2019/04/shrimp-claw-inspires-new-...

And video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOdRRjskWcc

tyingq 5 years ago

I wonder if these ants are immune to the effects of diatomaceous earth. Supposedly, DE pokes holes in the waxy coating over their exoskeleton and the ants die of the resulting dehydration.

TheSpiceIsLife 5 years ago

Some fig wasps have zinc plated ovipositors.

https://www.popularmechanics.com/science/animals/a12957/foun...

  • suifbwish 5 years ago

    Knowing that it is possible to have these genetic traits makes me feel that humans are even more delicate than first thought.

    • TeMPOraL 5 years ago

      Conversely, reading about such animals, my first thought is "can we please sequence their DNA already"?

      That's one critical reason for being very upset about us extincting countless species, even those that do not play any significant role in keeping the planet habitable - losing all these genes means losing pages from a book that contains ready-made biotech, and information that helps to explain how things came to be (which helps explain why it works).

    • TheSpiceIsLife 5 years ago

      Interestingly, vertibrates rely heavily on metals for the strength of their skeletons via the calcium mineral matrix calcium hydroxiapatite, up to 50% by volume and 70% by weight of human bone is a modified form of hydroxyapatite.

      And many of our enzymes contain metals (magnesium, a lot), and some transport proteins too (famously haemoglobin).

      Zinc is essential in humans for DNA replication. We need chromium and molybdenum in tiny amounts for blood sugar control and hunger regulation.

      Though none of these seem quite as spectacular as metal plares body parts!

  • corey_moncure 5 years ago

    And some blood worms have copper fangs!

hownottowrite 5 years ago

https://archive.is/vZeQP

  • colordrops 5 years ago

    Wow, archive.is is aborting on non-standard user agents. What a horrible practice.

    • forgotmypw17 5 years ago

      What user agent is it aborting on?

      That is disappointing.

    • cookiengineer 5 years ago

      ...and it blocks TOR requests with a legitimate web browser (Firefox on Android) with unsolvable captchas.

      Thanks, cloudflare. Thanks.

zrkrlc 5 years ago

I like how their experiment was literally pitting ants against each other.

  • _Microft 5 years ago

    I can't help empathizing with animals in such a situation. It must be like getting teleported into an otherwise empty room with a tiger in it. (Turns out that humans with chainmail fare a lot better than those without!)

    • baobabKoodaa 5 years ago

      Imagine an alien species that studies humans and a researcher discovers that some humans are wearing chainmail armor to battles. The researcher hypothesizes that wearing armor improves humans' odds in said battles. Of course this calls for a n=5000 study on human gladiator battles where some participants are provided chainmail armor and others are not. Ahh, science. Meanwhile, all the humans are like: uhh, yeah, 5000 of us died for this Sherlock?

    • emerged 5 years ago

      Ants individually are just happy to be of service to the queen. They should put a picture of the queen nearby as motivation.

    • MaximumYComb 5 years ago

      Even wearing chain mail I doubt you'd have a chance much higher than zero against a full grown tiger.

      • bigbubba 5 years ago

        I think the tiger would easily crush your neck, even if their teeth couldn't pierce the mail. I'd give better odds to a knight wearing a lot of plate armor. Still not very good odds though.

      • jacquesm 5 years ago

        I've seen a grown man turned into Filet American by an ordinary housecat with a grudge. A tiger is off the scale in terms of the damage that it will be able to do and no matter what body protection you wear short of a full body armor you will likely end up slightly dead.

      • _Microft 5 years ago

        Sigh

        I should have seen it coming. This or Miles O'Brien himself chiming in and telling us that trace amounts of exotic substances in medieval chain armour would have interfered with the transporter's Heisenberg compensators.

      • inawarminister 5 years ago

        I don't know, properly made chainmail suit is bite and scratchproof. Might be able to wrestle the tiger into submission. Though the weight of the tiger is going to be a VERY HUGE issue. Give me a spear and I'll be willing though.

        • edgyquant 5 years ago

          You aren’t gonna be able to wrestle a full grown tiger it’s hard enough wrestling a Pitbull or Rottweiler.

        • Razengan 5 years ago

          > Give me a spear and I'll be willing though.

          That should make for an interesting YouTube video.

          On the condition that the tiger is a healthy adult in the wild, hungry, and has never been captive, and someone is standing nearby not to interfere but to hit the upload button after you’re slain.

        • kingbirdy 5 years ago

          Chainmail is bite proof in that it will likely prevent the tiger's teeth from puncturing your skin, but a tiger's jaw is strong enough to snap almost any bone in your body through the chainmail, so it's ultimately not going to do you much good.

        • powersnail 5 years ago

          I have seen footage of a tiger pushing down the head of a charging antelope with one paw.

          Human has no chance wrestling an adult tiger.

          • tpxl 5 years ago

            There are accounts of people killing bears bare handed (though I don't know how adult they are), so it may not be as far fetched.

            • powersnail 5 years ago

              Two problems I think. First, the kind of bear and the age of the bear. The size and strength of bears range widely. Fighting a sun bear is somewhat reasonable. Fighting a grizzly, on the other hand.....

              Second, video proof. I know this kind of things probably aren't taped, because the people are busy fighting for their life. But, still, I'd be skeptical before I see some proof, that a person fought and killed an healthy adult grizzly (or some other comparable types) without a firearm or trap.

        • chordalkeyboard 5 years ago

          not bite proof, this is why they use cages to protect against really big sharks.

          • freshpots 5 years ago

            Sharks are larger and have larger teeth though. Plus, they have an advantage b/c they live in water and we don't. Bring them to land and we can debate a cage-less shark fight. The tiger situation seems more possible but I wouldn't try it.

  • skc 5 years ago

    I did this a lot as a child. Find some random insect (beetle, spider, earthworm), pop it into an ant colony and spend hours watching the ensuing battle.

    Never thought of it as cruel, which is unsettling when I imagine what an alien species with superior intelligence might choose to do with us.

    • hasa 5 years ago

      I did the same but I would not call it battle. It was like feeding lions with human slaves during Roman empire.

    • ac42 5 years ago

      higher intelligence = higher ignorance?

ende 5 years ago

Just wait until they dig deep enough to craft iron and diamond armor.

mytailorisrich 5 years ago

Correct link:

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/animals/2020/11/leaf-cutt...

nullsense 5 years ago

I just got this when I tried to hit the page:

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sammalloy 5 years ago

> never before seen in insects

Is this surprising, considering that an estimated 86% of species on Earth and 91% of ocean species remain unidentified?

https://journals.plos.org/plosbiology/article?id=10.1371/jou...

  • tooltower 5 years ago

    It can be fascinating without being surprising. That argument can be used to downplay any new finding in a poorly explored field.

    • ghayes 5 years ago

      I'd also argue that it _is_ surprising, as we'd expect the majority of unknown species to be similar to known species. It's not like every unknown species is just randomly created-- most will have ancestors that are well known and studied.

  • learnstats2 5 years ago

    Considering that leaf-cutter ants are well-known to humans (I've seen them in a museum in Amsterdam), I'd say it is surprising that we haven't noticed this before.

    • trianglem 5 years ago

      I spent this summer learning about the different mushroom in my area in as much depth as possible and it is incredible how little we know about most of them besides a name and very apparent superficial features.

  • Talanes 5 years ago

    The article takes great pains to point out that Leaf-Cutter Ants are not an unknown species though, they're one of the most-studied species of ant.

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