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New species of “supergiant” isopod uncovered

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74 points by kanobo 5 years ago · 26 comments

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lxe 5 years ago

Cached: https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:_LOT09...

These things are cool.

kanoboOP 5 years ago

Sorry, the site is down now, but here is a cached version: https://web.archive.org/web/20200826125737/https://news.nus....

dane-pgp 5 years ago

> The new giant isopod species was described from two specimens, ... 950 and 1,260 metres, during the South Java Deep Sea Biodiversity Expedition 2018

If you skim-read the article, you might end up with a very different picture in your head.

  • _jal 5 years ago

    They're still pretty big, but not destroying Tokyo anytime soon.

  • progval 5 years ago

    You missed an important part of the sentence:

    > collected off the southern coast of West Java in Indonesia, from a depth of between 950 and 1,260 metres

    the specimens were not 1km long.

    • dane-pgp 5 years ago

      You missed an important part of the sentence:

      > skim-read

      I then went back to read the sentence properly, but thank you for including the missing part for those who didn't read the article.

      • progval 5 years ago

        Indeed, my bad. I misunderstood your comment as saying skim-readers might miss that sentence and only see the sizes on pictures.

ncmncm 5 years ago

This might be a relative of our pill bugs? But there is probably a lot more evolution between them than between, e.g., horses and sharks. Which, by the way, is also bigger than between bony fish and sharks.

  • sixdimensional 5 years ago

    I've always been fascinated by pill bugs, also known as "Armadillidiidae" [1] they are such cool creatures. I don't know why, but the fact that they are land-dwelling crustaceans was just interesting to me.

    I had no idea something like this size and related existed in the sea! Incredible! I wonder now what the evolutionary tree looks like.

    [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armadillidiidae

    • sixdimensional 5 years ago

      Order Isopoda [1] on Wikipedia if anyone else is interested.

      Edit: Corrected Family -> Order - oops! Thank you pvaldes.

      [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isopoda

      • pvaldes 5 years ago

        Isopoda is an Order. This is in family Cirolanidae, so it has much smaller cousins in each beach.

        It seems there is an opportunity here, crouching like a cat, to dedicate one of this new species to Hayao Miyazaki. Bathynomus ohmu seems an pretty convenient name also. Maybe the next.

  • Sniffnoy 5 years ago

    Yes, pill bugs are also isopods.

  • ncmncm 5 years ago

    Sorry, wrong direction: sharks and horses are closer than sharks and tuna.

chiefalchemist 5 years ago

> The team says that the discovery is an example of deep-sea gigantism

Are there theories about this phenomenon? Does this explain the historically atypical size of the dinosaurs? Why doesn't it continue to happen? For example, why aren't there giant robins (birds) or tiny ones? Is there not a single eco-system ever where this would be an advantage?

From another article on the same discovery

  • rsynnott 5 years ago

    It does, generally on islands: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Island_gigantism

    Humans tend to exterminate them.

    • ampdepolymerase 5 years ago

      And also in environments with high oxygen concentration. At one point dragonflies were the size of cats (the cause is different from deep sea gigantism).

    • mc32 5 years ago

      I think that’s an over generalization. The La Brea tarpit types were extinguished due to climate change. It’s also postulated mammoths and such were also affected by climate change, food availability and hunting. None the less, before humans came on the scene large animals came and went.

      Of course if they had survived to even antiquity, yes, we’d probably have hunted them to extinction.

      • rsynnott 5 years ago

        Well, sure, there are loads that died out before humans showed up. But of those that existed when we showed up, we have exterminated almost all of them.

        > Of course if they had survived to even antiquity, yes, we’d probably have hunted them to extinction.

        Often it wasn't even hunting. New Zealand's various giant ground parrots weren't THAT delicious. We introduced invasive species which did the extermination for us, in that case (and many/most bird-y cases, at least).

        • snori74 5 years ago

          Hard to know how you could state this so confidently, snacked on a kakapo recently?

  • grayfaced 5 years ago

    I'd expect giants to be more vulnerable to changes in the ecosystem. A new species is introduced that creates competition and the giants can't adapt to a new niche.

    I imagine deep-sea is an ecosystem that doesn't get disrupted often. Little new introduction of species. Little human intervention.

gridlockd 5 years ago

I'm kinda disappointed, these aren't much larger than the giant isopods that you can buy at a well-stocked Asian grocery.

C4ne 5 years ago

Could we leave these animals out in the ocean please? I know that there will be people that want to eat them because it gives them some kind of superpower you‘ve never heard of. But if you look at the year 2020 you may know that wild species can give you wild diseases. Or maybe we just limit interaction with these species only to scientists ghat know how to handle them.

  • steve_adams_86 5 years ago

    I understand the sentiment to a point, but isn’t it essentially impossible to get diseases from deep sea isopods? If we should be exploring any unknown creatures, deep sea creatures seem relatively safe if you are aiming to avoid transmissible diseases.

    Maybe I’m wrong. I don’t know much about this stuff.

  • ycombonator 5 years ago

    You got downvoted by CCP

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