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A hand-wired USB and Bluetooth keyboard powered by Python

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81 points by kfihihc 6 years ago · 28 comments

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BiteCode_dev 6 years ago

A lot of people are asking:

- why python?

- isn't is slow?

Remember that Python is a language spec, there are several implementations.

This project uses a particular implementation called CircuitPython ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CircuitPython), a derivative project from MicroPython ( https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/MicroPython), by the people at AdaFruit.

This implementation runs with a very different VM that can fit within 256k of code space and 16k of RAM.

So, while obviously you cannot expect anywhere near C level of perfs, this is way lighter than CPython.

The advantage is that you get the ease of Python to program your board, including the clean terce language, the memory management and the rich data structures. You can even have a live shell on some embeded hardwares! The whole dev process is so simple: code, copy your module, run.

Of course, some features of CPython are not available.

  • mzakharo1 6 years ago

    many people dont realize, but micropython has unix port, and it can be much slower than CPython. micropython's main advantage is size, not speed.

davefp 6 years ago

Great job! I've not seen python-based keyboard firmware before, I'm impressed that it's fast enough to run something like a keyboard.

Without detracting from the code in the post, I recommend that anyone wanting to make and program their own keyboard should take a look at QMK, a widely supported keyboard firmware project that is FOSS: https://qmk.fm/

hellweaver666 6 years ago

If you want to make a little macro-keyboard equivalent at a fraction of the cost, I wrote a little guide (with example code) here: https://makeandymake.github.io/2020/05/02/seeeduino-xiao-cir...

  • kart23 6 years ago

    this is pretty cool!

    I've wanted to hardwire a keyboard, but a full-size one seems pretty intimidating.

mchan889 6 years ago

This looks cool, however can someone with some electronics know-how explain to me why the connections on most, if not all the keys are crossed? They don't look like insulated wires, though I could be wrong.

Abishek_Muthian 6 years ago

This is nice, we need more such open-source, affordable keyboard designs and components; Especially for accessibility keyboards[1] as their costs are exorbitant.

[1]https://needgap.com/problems/96-one-hand-keyboard-keyboard-a...

stonecharioteer 6 years ago

Haha that's amazing. What's the latency on this though? I always assumed firmware written in python would be slow for a use case like a keyboard.

  • kfihihcOP 6 years ago

    It is a bit slow. It takes 4 ms to scan the matrix once right now. With some optimizations, it may be faster.

    • sk0g 6 years ago

      Would Numpy be of use? Haven't looked at the source yet, but for a keyboard, 4 ms per matrix would be noticeably laggy, especially if you add debouncing (is that even a thing in keyboards?)

      • turbinerneiter 6 years ago

        It's a microcontroller. It has maybe 512k of storage and 128k of memory. The Numpy package probably is ~100Mb

        The controller is running CircuitPython which is a fork of MicroPython - a tiny re-implementation Python for microcontrollers.

        • sk0g 6 years ago

          Valid point! Might still be able to get a speed up if you can write and import your own C code though.

      • kfihihcOP 6 years ago

        The best usb keyboard should have 1ms latency due to USB HID interrupt interval. 4 ms is not that bad.

        • sk0g 6 years ago

          Yeah, read it as 4ms per row at first. Should be fine for general use, and rather impressive as is :)

      • JoeSmithson 6 years ago

        How would 4ms be noticeably laggy?

        • sk0g 6 years ago

          I read it first as 4ms per row, but yeah 4ms per scan wouldn't be too bad. There is of course additional time taken for communication etc, which might take another 4-10ms, which could make it almost a frame behind. Not terrible still.

thecureforzits 6 years ago

Nice, if I made it I would replace the capslock with control and "~" with escape. Make the least used keys require combinations, not the often used ones.

  • StavrosK 6 years ago

    I use Caps Lock for both Ctrl and Esc, wouldn't have it any other way. Shift keys are also open/closing parens, holding down the tilde turns the "yuihjknm," section to a numpad, holding down Tab turns jkl; to {}[], etc.

    Very handy when programming.

    • Keyframe 6 years ago

      How's caps both ctrl and esc? Can you explain on shifts a bit? I guess you autotab

      • StavrosK 6 years ago

        Oh, they're all hold/tap. Hold CapsLock to get Ctrl, tap to get Esc. Similarly with the shifts, hold to get shift, tap to get ( on left and ) on right. Tab is the same way, hold down tab to transform the keys.

  • mvanbaak 6 years ago

    CAPS -> control I can follow, but the ~ key ... Man, that would be annoying as hell.

jonny383 6 years ago

Honestly, why Python? Writing a much faster equivalent in C really isn't any more complicated...

  • kfihihcOP 6 years ago

    Just for fun :)

    The hardware includes a QSPI flash which presents as an USB storage that stored Python source code, and you can modify Python directly.

    BTW, It provides a new way to validate your hardware product ideas quickly.

    • jonny383 6 years ago

      Solid answer. I just realised my question sounded cynical - which wasn't my intention.

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