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Who is running the Pandemic Survival fear-mongering spam campaign

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92 points by ophelia 6 years ago · 16 comments

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pmachinery 6 years ago

A one post fake blog about absolutely nothing[0], knocked-up five minutes ago, on a garbage domain extension registered a few weeks ago, exploiting the clickiest topic of the day and posted to HN. Who's the coronavirus spammer here, exactly?

[0] The only issue after wasting my time reading most of the post is that it was, according to the author, spam (UCE). Otherwise it's no more remarkable than any other affiliate marketed ebook trash that aren't worthy of blog posts.

To fill the article the author complains that the book simply gives "trivial" tips; but if the tips are good advice ("proper handwashing techniques") or at least not harmful, so what? Maybe there are people who don't trust the Federal Government or UN or WHO or CNN but take advice from the kind of thing you might find advertised on alexjones.com.

The rest of the article is just about the ways companies hide who they are and use fake office addresses. Again, so what? It's not something I particularly support or agree with but it's commonplace, not a secret and seemingly not illegal.

I was struggling to see why this was written, other than it's related to the topic of the century, until I noticed it was a fake site with only one post and that is the only reason it was written.

  • cy_hauser 6 years ago

    I suspect the idea was to expose them, hurt their business, and maybe turn the eyes of the law in their direction. I don't see anything that would bring about the level of anger you express unless you're tied to their profits. Are you?

    • pmachinery 6 years ago

      Are you selling a potentially illegal pandemic ebook and hoping to profit from a competitor being taken down?

      Baseless paranoid accusations are easy, and completely missing the point of a post - annoyance at low-effort junk posted to HN by site owners for the purpose of leeching page rank - isn't an excuse for resorting to them.

ddmma 6 years ago

Quackery is often described as "health fraud" with the salient characteristic of aggressive promotion.”

In the medieval times this was done by shouting in the public markets, today using affiliate marketing networks targeting millions of emails. Surely they don’t target people that can reason and ignore/ delete their messages but the ones that click and follow the dodgy trail.

Here is an interesting podcast about Scams - You Are Not So Smart Podcast 097 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8mbW18RcO8Y

Ref: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quackery

zipwitch 6 years ago

I misread the title. I was really hoping this was a link to house-rules on playing the Pandemic cooperative boardgame with the COVID-19 coronavirus as the disease.

  • WorldMaker 6 years ago

    Using a mix of Legacy and Expansion Pack rules: Sharpie the name COVID-19 onto the game board for your least favorite color. Every outbreak of that color is now doubled (as if it had been drawn twice from your deck). It's up to your group if you want that to also effect overall difficulty (if those double outbreaks count as double towards the game's lose condition counter).

dhosek 6 years ago

Kind of ironic that halfway through reading an article about spam, they have a popup on screen begging me to sign up for their mailing list.

vorpalhex 6 years ago

Title doesn't match source.

"Coronavirus spam selling the 'Pandemic Survival' ebook"

smoyer 6 years ago

I read the article to the end and was half expecting the answer to be "Alex Jones". Hopefully he doesn't reappear so easily after being banned from so many platforms!

  • cy_hauser 6 years ago

    I know ... could have easily been something he was selling. (Looks like a few Alex Jones fans here. Hi to you too.)

    • smoyer 6 years ago

      I'm not here to gain karma ... and I'm willing to have a discussion with Alex Jones fans too so long as they stick to facts and avoid hyperbole, mis-truths, etc.

droithomme 6 years ago

The article mentions yomali out of Malta. Yomali's just an ecommerce, billing and hosting site doing payment processing for the people selling these guides. Much as Google and AWS host services for numerous questionable companies.

Malta has some weird tax advantage apparently because a lot of ecommerce goes out of there. Also Cyprus.

Yomali's owned by an Israel guy who says his name is Mike Peters. ( https://www.entrepreneur.com/article/326673 )

It's likely he and his company have little to do with these ebooks other than handling payment processing for them along with many other small companies.

  • Nursie 6 years ago

    Malta appears to be somewhere you can get an EU banking license without quite so much scrutiny and oversight as some of the larger places. Coincidentally quite a few cryptocurrency-related organisations have moved their HQ there...

  • walrus01 6 years ago

    Malta is also a location where a lot of questionable cryptocurrency related firms have chosen to incorporate, and get bank accounts.

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